joejack951 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 pm
853guy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:17 pm
They're all just data points, Joejack. Each person should decide what's best for them, based on the available, and sometimes, inconclusive/conflicting research.
For whatever it's worth, a quick re-read of my post will show the only personal pronoun used above is “I”. That’s because I was sharing what
I do, not what
he/she/they should do, and certainly not what
you should do.
Best,
853guy
I should have added a [sarcasm] tag to my response. But, I would also like to add that I personally get the impression that someone is attempting to speak with authority about a subject when they make a statement about something and then proceed to post a link to a study 'proving' their point. Generally when people try to speak with authority it is because they want people to follow/agree with them. It may not always be true but it's the impression I get. A more balanced post from you might have mentioned that there are conflicting studies and I would not have felt the need to post a snarky response.
Hello joejack,
Appeals to authority are a form of logical fallacy. I neither post links to suggest they are therefore authoritative, any more than I claim to be an authority myself. Maybe you missed these posts three pages ago where I wrote:
“Again - these are my personal observations based on what's worked best for me. I'm not willing to extrapolate my own individual experience to suggest this will be the case for the rest of the population, especially apropos those of declining hormone levels and increased ageing. Individual data points are no more or less than that.”
And followed it up with this:
“Again, all the above, and my preceding posts are simply my data points of losing and maintaining a healthy weight (and body recomposition) for my age via a long-term process of experimentation based on the available research I've seen. I honestly do not want to suggest that my experience will by everyone else's as the variables are too great, and also, I am not a competitive athlete, just someone who loves riding (so I cannot say anything about the likely results for those who are competing either at an amateur or pro level). Were we discussing Rapha vs Pas Normal Studios that would be one thing, but when it comes to other people’s health, I am neither an expert, nor do I claim to be one.”
As to whether you personally perceive my posts to be an attempt to get people to follow/agree with me and/or are “balanced”, that is something I can’t do anything about. Your impressions aren’t my responsibility. And your responses - snarky or otherwise - definitely aren’t. I try to evaluate each post on the merits of its content, not the intention or personality of the poster, which in any case I cannot claim to assume to know with any veracity, and certainly not from a couple of paragraphs written on a forum.
joejack951 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 pm
Anyway, when it comes to nutrition, it is rare to find a study that doesn't have a counter-study saying the opposite. I wasn't looking for a study refuting what your link claimed about soy but happened to click on a link on the same page about a 'related study' and there it was. I have no idea who funded either study but in my prior readings of both nutrition-related and various other subject matter-related studies, they are nearly all funded by interested parties in some way. Hence why I tend to ignore the vast majority of them and just focus on what makes sense and works for me.
Again, data points are data points. How they come to be funded neither invalidates their findings anymore than it validates them. Whether vested/conflicted interests have contributed to the data itself containing some form of bias is of less interest to me than whether than have any utility value in gaining insight into my evolving process of losing weight (loss) and keeping it off (over time). Like you, I simply do what works best for me.
Best,
853guy