The comfort of narrow handlebars.

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Marin
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by Marin

Yes, very.

Regarding narrow bars, I just found out that Ergonovas are flared and available in 380mm measured at the drops, so you can get a 366mm hoods position.

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by mrgray

this is what i am into. narrow narrow handlebars with flares as well. 38 cm ergonovas are my bar of choice unless aero in which cases i am using enve ses. i have very broad shoulders for a cyclist but i am finding narrow bars to the stuff. and i note that when i ma buying bars the 38 cm are always sold out before other sizes. i really wanted some control ti bars the other day but narrowest was 40 cm i think. no good. i think bar manufacturers who don't get involved are missing out.
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by cyclespeed

I went down from 42 to 40 Syntace Racelite's and was immediately more at home, and faster.

I then went to 40 3T Aeronova LTD's which I think are a touch narrower still.

My take on the whole longer bar = more leverage thing is; yes it's a longer lever, and thus you can create more torque with it, BUT you hands/forearms will be scribing a larger arc, i.e. moving further, which will promote upper body rock. So, 'en danseuse', and sprinting, I would say it's a wash; narrow = less torque but a more stable upper body (and how much torque do you need at the bar anyway?)

A longer bar also gives you more precision in steering, but that's not really a big issue in road, more so in MTB.

So I'm enjoying the better aero (significant IMO), lighter weight and perhaps better stiffness (shorter = stiffer all else being equal), and may now try 38's.

I'm 1.75m, 63kg.

Edit - my bad, just checked, they don't make a 38 Aeronova.....yet!

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by chris47

I pretty much had the same experiences as everyone else here, i went from a cheapo 42cm alu bar to a 36cm zipp and it was funny for the first 10 minutes, but after that i feel completely at home on the narrower bar. i reckon i could probably go narrower, but i have not seen any bars in 32, or 34. It would also be nice if there were some aero bars (flat tops) in a narrow width, but oh well

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by jekyll man

@chris47
Depends on how the bars are measured and the flare on them.
Enve's are claimed narrow, but flare out somewhat more than my aeronovas.
Also due to the shaping you'd be banging your wrists on the corners unless there was big drop or flare.
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chris47 wrote:I pretty much had the same experiences as everyone else here, i went from a cheapo 42cm alu bar to a 36cm zipp and it was funny for the first 10 minutes, but after that i feel completely at home on the narrower bar. i reckon i could probably go narrower, but i have not seen any bars in 32, or 34. It would also be nice if there were some aero bars (flat tops) in a narrow width, but oh well


you can get some 33cm bars, 85mm reach and 120mm drop - designed for juniors, but apart from the shallow drop they seem like pretty 'normal' bars. http://www.hillbrick.com.au/hillbrick-b ... bar-detail

Also I think having flared bars defeats the purpose of having narrow bars - it's on the drops that I appreciate the 'narrow' profile the most, makes putting out the power in a sprint much easier.
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by Lelandjt

Too bad the Easton EC90 Aero doesn't come in 38. I got the 40 and like it but I'd buy a 38 for sure.

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by wingguy

jekyll man wrote:@chris47
Depends on how the bars are measured and the flare on them.
Enve's are claimed narrow, but flare out somewhat more than my aeronovas.


Which Enves? Annoyingly, standard road is measured at hoods, SES aero bar is measured at drops. And flare of the aeronovas is very similar to flare of the Enve standard road, but measured at the drops.

So, choosing all 3 stated 40cm bars;
Enve Road bar is 40cm hoods, 42cm drops.
Enve SES bar is 35cm hoods, 40cm drops.
Aeronova is 37.5cm hoods, 40cm drops.

Clear as mud? :lol:

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by Hexsense

Another crash a while ago, my bar should be replaced soon.

Any new options of aero, flat top bar that is in 36-38mm range available?
Really like how Pro Vibe Aero handle bar looks, but unfortunately their smallest size are way too wide.

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by 11.4

I've posted in a number of places in favor of narrow bars, but let's take this all in moderation. When we're trying to find 34 and 32 cm c-c bars for road use, it's getting a little excessive for most riders. The idea was to get away from 42, 44, and 46 cm c-c bars. All one really needs to get the benefit is a 38 or 40 cm c-c bar. On the track, narrower bars are coming in more, but there's a point where for road use, it just doesn't make sense. Everything in moderation. At the track World Cup level, the most prevalent bar is the 34 cm Scatto. The Brits have tried some narrower bars and Chris Hoy in particular tried racing on them, but most riders are now on 34 cm Scattos or comparable offerings from Alpina and others. And that's track. For road, apart from a few people who go to extremes in the pro peloton, the most common narrow bars are 38 and 40 cm c-c.

One thing about narrow bars is to go a bit longer in the stem. That improves your aero position and also keeps your diaphragm unblocked. It also helps rotate your hips more effectively.

I've typically used 38 cm 3T Ergonovas, but I've been riding the new Specialized Sworks Blade in a 40 cm width. It's a bit narrower than that, and it's a classic round bend in fairly shallow dimensions. The whole bar works really well and allows internal cable routing, bar-end Di2 setup, and so on. In a position on a narrower bar with more reach, it's a very nice bar.

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by Hexsense

yeah, i'm not sure if i went overboard about it,
but if you guys, tall people can ride 38-40. It scale down to 36-38 for me. I'm 5'6.5 (169cm) tall, using 165mm crank, frame size 50 stem slam all the way down, etc. A proper small guy stereotype.

Shoulder width measure from protuding bone to bone is 35cm. Convensional bar width calculation of Measured width+2cm and round up recommend me a 38cm bar. Even outside to outside of my full shoulder width (including shoulder muscle) is less than 40cm. So a narrow bar for me is in 36-38cm range, or else it's a standard width rather than a narrow bar.

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Not so long ago the trend was wider. Now, some like it narrow. We’ll get back to “just right” again at some point I’m sure... which for me is the distance between two round pieces of dowel, broom handle or whatever (about the diameter of a handlebar at the drops), held with arms comfortable and straight directly out in front of me, one stick in each hand each perpendicular to the ground, arms parallel to each other, neither spreading out wider nor angling in. Naturally straight... jussst right, like Goldilocks. That’ll be ~42cm please, Center to Center. Yes.... jussst right. Get your fancy measuring tape off my back please, and measure how far apart that natural distance out front is. Thank you.
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Hexsense wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:11 pm
Any new options of aero, flat top bar that is in 36-38mm range available?
Really like how Pro Vibe Aero handle bar looks, but unfortunately their smallest size are way too wide.
The Zipp SL aero bar comes in a 38, but it flares to 40 at the drops.

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by ericoschmitt

Unreliable specs are SO annoying. I bought a Fizik Cyrano R3 Snake expecting it to be 140mm drop and 38cm wide. Came 125mm drop and 39.5cm c-c at the drops. I think they made the drop "proportional" on smaller size, but I actually bought it BECAUSE it did not spec 125mm as everything else. And because it's light and cheap (bought during black friday on Wiggle). At 245g you can't get lighter without going carbon I guess.

But then I got this bar, "too" wide, too shallow. My point for deeper drops is not having lower drops, but higher tops when I want to be confortable.

I did some research for narrow+light bars at 38 or 36, it's tricky! Seems that Zipp Service Course SL-80 has 36cm at 250g. I found a Bontrager Race Lite X Vr-sf 360mm at 210g, but thats carbon and expensive, and I'm not sure the specs are reliable (c-c at drops). Don't want to have carbon bars just to let my bike fall accidentally at caffe and crack the drop side.

I also found a Most bar that LBS took off some pinarello, says 40cm but I measured 38cm (!!!) and 305g. Bought it dirty cheap and that's going to my fixie where weight doesn't really matter (9kg is fine with very heavy wheels and gator 28 tires). This is an opposite example of how unreliable specs are! The bike owner swapped the bars because he thought it was too narrow. Lucky me!

So... What other options do you know about with these caracteristics?

-38cm or narrower (real measure at drops c-c)
-Alloy
-250g or less
-Not above $100 if possible

So far only Zipp Service Course S80 36cm 250g claimed

Controltech FUEGO HMS is heavy at 284g claimed
Shimano Pro Plt Compact a bit less heavy at 270g claimed

If I have to choose between narrower or lighter I still keep the light one, its WW you know. I'm looking seriously into that Zipp bar. It's just tricky to get things here in Brazil, huge taxes and shipping, so I'll have to wait until I travel abroad or some friend can bring it (months). BTW if anyone comes to south Brazil (Florianópolis) please bring me parts! hahaha

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How do you guys find the narrow bars on long distance rides?
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