The comfort of narrow handlebars.

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jeanjacques
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by jeanjacques

ericoschmitt wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:17 am
So... What other options do you know about with these caracteristics?

-38cm or narrower (real measure at drops c-c)
-Alloy
-250g or less
-Not above $100 if possible
Deda 100 RHM* and Deda 100 Anatomic.
http://www.dedaelementi.com/en/product/rhm-zero/
http://www.dedaelementi.com/en/product/ ... -newton-2/
*234g for my 38cm (c-c), Deda mesure outside to outside.

DutchMountains
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by DutchMountains

ericoschmitt wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:17 am
So... What other options do you know about with these caracteristics?
-38cm or narrower (real measure at drops c-c)
-Alloy
-250g or less
-Not above $100 if possible
I got the Syntace CDR 7075 handle bar size small (40cm) for about 40 euro on sale some 18 months ago :D It measures 38cm c-c at the end of the drops and 37cm c-c near the hoods. 243 grams on my kitchen scale.

As to long distances: works fine. (long as in London-Edinburgh-London and several 600km brevets). Only disadvantage is the lack of space in the corners when you also mount a tri-bar (Syntace C3 in my case)

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ericoschmitt
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by ericoschmitt

jeanjacques wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:09 am

Deda 100 RHM* and Deda 100 Anatomic.
http://www.dedaelementi.com/en/product/rhm-zero/
http://www.dedaelementi.com/en/product/ ... -newton-2/
*234g for my 38cm (c-c), Deda mesure outside to outside.
Deda 100 RHM seems perfect!!! My favorite shape too. Why don't those things show up in google searches when you are actually buying stuff?? I'd not have bought this Fizik Snake PoS. I don't really like classic drop, but bought it on sale, and because light and because "narrow" (or so I thought)...

But then, if Zipp SL-80 is really narrow (36 c-c our even o-o) I'd be puzzled between saving 16 precious grams or getting a bit narrower! Let's wait for finished bike weight to see if those 16 matter or not. I want 6.8kg with computer and sensors hopefully.

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by ericoschmitt

DutchMountains wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:10 pm

I got the Syntace CDR 7075 handle bar size small (40cm) for about 40 euro on sale some 18 months ago :D It measures 38cm c-c at the end of the drops and 37cm c-c near the hoods. 243 grams on my kitchen scale.
Thanks for the input, I'll update the list of narrow-light-alu bars. Not my shape though, and nearly same weight of what I got at hand. I paid the same on my Fizik R3 on Wiggle black friday. Actually bought all the parts I own on closeouts, blackfriday, or sales offering good discounts! Why not!?

ericoschmitt
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by ericoschmitt

Not sure if I should start another thread, but I decided to organize a list. Please add what you know (copy and paste the text below and add a new one below). Someone could start a list of carbon ones.

Handlebars with these characteristics:
-38cm or narrower (real measure at drops c-c)
-Alloy
-250g or less
-Not above $100 if possible

1) Zipp Service Course SL-80 36cm (claimed) 250g (claimed)
2) Deda 100 RHM 40cm (measured 38 c-c) 234g (measured)
3) Deda ZERO 100 ANATOMIC 40cm (should measure 38 too) 244g (estimated, +10g from RHM)
4) Syntace CDR 7075 40cm (measured 38 c-c) 243g (measured)
5) Fizik Cyrano R3 Snake 38cm* (measured 39.5* c-c) 242.4g (measured) (added to the list so that people know it actually claims wrong measure!)

Keep adding! :)

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by vejnemojnen

I recall that syntace discount on bike-components.de cc. 1.5 years ago. One of my favourite bars, though I'd use one with 42cc size

topflightpro
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by topflightpro

Not sure if I should start another thread, but I decided to organize a list. Please add what you know (copy and paste the text below and add a new one below). Someone could start a list of carbon ones.

Handlebars with these characteristics:
-38cm or narrower (real measure at drops c-c)
-Alloy
-250g or less
-Not above $100 if possible

1) Zipp Service Course SL-80 36cm (claimed) 250g (claimed)
2) Deda 100 RHM 40cm (measured 38 c-c) 234g (measured)
3) Deda ZERO 100 ANATOMIC 40cm (should measure 38 too) 244g (estimated, +10g from RHM)
4) Syntace CDR 7075 40cm (measured 38 c-c) 243g (measured)
5) Fizik Cyrano R3 Snake 38cm* (measured 39.5* c-c) 242.4g (measured) (added to the list so that people know it actually claims wrong measure!)
6) Specialized Women's Expert Shallow (36, 38 or 40) No posted weight. $45
7) Specialized Short Reach (36, 38 or 40) No posted weight. $30

CARBON:
1) Specialized Women's Carbon Shallow Bend (36, 38, 40) Claimed 180g for 40. $250

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by nathanong87

if the fizik makes the cut, then i'll offer the best handle bar in the world .... the easton equipe pro slx and the easton TKO at 40cm..... 40c-c at the drops but 39cm at the hoods. 200g and 300g respectively.

why the best u ask?.....Classic bend.

jeanjacques
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by jeanjacques

Previously with Deda Zero 100 RHM 38cm (c-c), I changed for Ritchey Evocurve* for the 4° sweep:
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Massive increase in comfort. With narrow bar, hands doesn't have a lot of place on the top when climbing and this slight curve permit to have them more outside and with a more confortable wrist orientation.

* two models, Superlogic (38cm 196g mesured) and WCS one. I asked Ritchey about hard gravel use with the Superlogic and they said no problem. And unlike other carbon bar, this one is clip-on bar compatible.

JerryLook
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by JerryLook

I’m currently using a Salsa Poco carbon bar. Size 36cm. It weighs 195 grams, and has a reach of 70mm and a drop of 140mm.

My stem is now slammed, and I am switching over to a shallower drop bar. 3T Ergonova in size 38cm. Man I wish they made a 36cm.

I’m 6’ tall, and switched from a 42cm bar about a year ago. The narrower bar is comfortable on 100 mile rides, as well as shorter high intensity rides.
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zebragonzo
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by zebragonzo

I get odd looks from other riders, but I like to have my shifters rotated to about 30° off vertical. Narrow position on the hoods, I don't have to find freakishly narrow bars (with associated limits on range) and it feels like a more natural position*.

*Try standing with your arms by your side then raise your hands to horizontal in front of you. It seems that the hands naturally twist to horizontal as your arms are in front of you... why not match the brake hoods to this natural angle?
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ericoschmitt
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by ericoschmitt

JerryLook wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:06 pm
I’m currently using a Salsa Poco carbon bar. Size 36cm. It weighs 195 grams, and has a reach of 70mm and a drop of 140mm.

My stem is now slammed, and I am switching over to a shallower drop bar. 3T Ergonova in size 38cm. Man I wish they made a 36cm.

I’m 6’ tall, and switched from a 42cm bar about a year ago. The narrower bar is comfortable on 100 mile rides, as well as shorter high intensity rides.
why not flip the stem upwards instead, so that the drops are higher where you want them? The plus is that your tops will get higher, so when you want confort/rest, it will be even better. And you keep your bars, don't spend in new ones. 140mm drops was one of the reasons I got Fizik Cyrano Snake r3, but in the 38cm width they came with 125mm drop instead, I got so disappointed. Your Salsa Poco measures seem perfect to me, is there an equivalent alloy version? I'm just not sure I would like those curves in the drop.

JerryLook
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by JerryLook

ericoschmitt wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:04 am
JerryLook wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:06 pm
I’m currently using a Salsa Poco carbon bar. Size 36cm. It weighs 195 grams, and has a reach of 70mm and a drop of 140mm.

My stem is now slammed, and I am switching over to a shallower drop bar. 3T Ergonova in size 38cm. Man I wish they made a 36cm.

I’m 6’ tall, and switched from a 42cm bar about a year ago. The narrower bar is comfortable on 100 mile rides, as well as shorter high intensity rides.
why not flip the stem upwards instead, so that the drops are higher where you want them? The plus is that your tops will get higher, so when you want confort/rest, it will be even better. And you keep your bars, don't spend in new ones. 140mm drops was one of the reasons I got Fizik Cyrano Snake r3, but in the 38cm width they came with 125mm drop instead, I got so disappointed. Your Salsa Poco measures seem perfect to me, is there an equivalent alloy version? I'm just not sure I would like those curves in the drop.
The thing is, I like the tops where they are now. I just want the drops a little higher. Also the drops in the Poco just aren’t as comfortable for me as some other bars I have tried.

Yes I believe they did make an alloy version of the Poco. I picked my carbon bar up used, but in very good shape. They aren’t as expensive as some of the more popular brands.
2010 Orbea Opal 54cm
6.6kg

CXrider
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by CXrider

Does anyone know if there are handlebars available that are narrower than 32 cm c-c?

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