True Weight Weenieism...
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Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
Cycling Sports Group, Cannondale
Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
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Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo
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"It's not so much where you are, as where you're headed."
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Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
Cycling Sports Group, Cannondale
Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
Cycling Sports Group, Cannondale
Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo
It used to be 5kg, but with disc and aero it's more like sub-7 is truly awesome now ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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That’s not an understatement!! All 3 of my bikes are under 14.0 lb (6.36 kg), but I’ve always thought of WW bike’s under 13 lb!!Marin wrote:It used to be 5kg, but with disc and aero it's more like sub-7 is truly awesome now
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IMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.
Alternately:DamonRinard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:16 pm"It's not so much where you are, as where you're headed."
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themidge wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:59 pmIMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.
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Can't be stock with money thrown at it.themidge wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:59 pmIMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.13lbs/5.915kg(w/Roval 64's). Sold.
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg.
2015 Rca. 11.15 lbs(w/Roval CLX 32's)
2015 Rca/NOS(sold).
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight 12.03lbs(w/Roval CLX 50's)
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg.
2015 Rca. 11.15 lbs(w/Roval CLX 32's)
2015 Rca/NOS(sold).
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight 12.03lbs(w/Roval CLX 50's)
It can if you threw money at it in the first place
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But really what I meant by 'stock' is 'not modified in any way'. I think a true WW bike has parts that have been modified to make them lighter and/or better. It gets a bit subjective around the 'choice parts' area, but in general I think it takes actual modification or choosing every part specially to be a true WW bike.
For example:
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^ true WW
![Image](https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/cropped/preview_500/images/Trek%20Emonda/Trek%20Emonda%20SLR%2010%2018.jpg)
^ not true WW
FWIW, of all my bikes I consider only my Cannondale to be a WW bike, and even then it's somewhere in the grey area between 'true WW' and 'built up a frame with parts of my choice'
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