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tabl10s
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by tabl10s

starts at what poundage?
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight: 11.04/5.007kg
2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg

DamonRinard
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by DamonRinard

...less than before!
;-)
Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
Cycling Sports Group, Cannondale
Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo

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by DamonRinard

"It's not so much where you are, as where you're headed."
-anonymous
Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager, Road Bikes
Cycling Sports Group, Cannondale
Ex-Kestrel, ex-Velomax, ex-Trek, ex-Cervelo

Marin
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by Marin

It used to be 5kg, but with disc and aero it's more like sub-7 is truly awesome now :P

donald
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by donald

My 3.2 kg bike has an aero stem, fork, saddle and wheels. One can have aero and light weight.

tabl10s
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by tabl10s

???
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight: 11.04/5.007kg
2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg

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dgasmd
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by dgasmd

Marin wrote:It used to be 5kg, but with disc and aero it's more like sub-7 is truly awesome now :P
That’s not an understatement!! All 3 of my bikes are under 14.0 lb (6.36 kg), but I’ve always thought of WW bike’s under 13 lb!!

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by themidge

IMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.

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by ms6073

DamonRinard wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:16 pm
"It's not so much where you are, as where you're headed."
-anonymous
Alternately:
"No matter where you go, there you are."
Buckaroo Banzai
Michael - The Anaerobic Threshold is neither...

knakkie
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by knakkie

A true weightweenie never stops shedding weight of the bike/parts

Thomson
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by Thomson

A weight saving is a weight saving right?

I think it's when even the small gains feel like a big gain.

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by LouisN

themidge wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:59 pm
IMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.
:up: Amen.

Louis :)

tabl10s
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by tabl10s

themidge wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:59 pm
IMO it isn't about the weight, it's how you go about achieving whatever weight you end up with. It could be a 4kg tuned-to-the-last special, or a touring tandem that is as light as possible using the same ideas as the 4kg road bike, but still only makes it down to 14kg or whatever because of durability and reliability etc. I wouldn't call something where someone's just thrown 20 grand at it and ended up with a superlight, but completely 'stock' build a true WW build.
Can't be stock with money thrown at it.
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight: 11.04/5.007kg
2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg

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themidge
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by themidge

tabl10s wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:15 pm
Can't be stock with money thrown at it.
It can if you threw money at it in the first place :wink:

But really what I meant by 'stock' is 'not modified in any way'. I think a true WW bike has parts that have been modified to make them lighter and/or better. It gets a bit subjective around the 'choice parts' area, but in general I think it takes actual modification or choosing every part specially to be a true WW bike.
For example:
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^ true WW

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^ not true WW

FWIW, of all my bikes I consider only my Cannondale to be a WW bike, and even then it's somewhere in the grey area between 'true WW' and 'built up a frame with parts of my choice'

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