My new bike...

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Timo
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by Timo

Actually there are two new bikes but I only have pics of one...

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by Frankie - B

nice one, Got a speclist?
'Tape was made to wrap your GF's gifts, NOT hold a freakin tire on.'

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Timo
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Off course. Here's for both bikes. I'll post pics of the other bike as soon as possible. Comments and/or suggestions for changes are most welcome :)

Bike 1

Frame: Kinesis Extralight Cyclocross from Bikelabor (58 cm; gloss black)
Fork: Advanced Cyclocross full carbon
Headset: Chris King Classic ahead (1 1/8”)
Stem: Thomson Elite X2 (1 1/8"; -10°; 120 cm)
Handlebar: 3ttt Less XL (Ø 31.8 mm; 46 cm
Brakehandles: Campagnolo Chorus Ergopower
Cables: Campagnolo Black
Brakes: Spooky carbon cantilevers
Cranks: Campagnolo Chorus (aluminium; 172.5 cm; 46x39t.)
Bottom bracket: Campagnolo Chorus (107 mm)
Pedals: Time ATAC XS Carbon
Chain: Campagnolo C10
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Chorus (short cage)
Front derailleur: Campagnolo Chorus (Ø 31.8 mm)
Cassette: Campagnolo Chorus (13-26t.)
Hubs: Campagnolo Record (32 h.)
Spokes: Sapim Race (zilver)
Rims: Mavic Open Pro (32 h.)
Inner tubes: Schwalbe
Tires: Schwalbe Fast Fred 700x35c
Seat post: Thomson Elite (330 mm; Ø 27.2 mm)
Seat post clamp:
Saddle: Selle Italia Flite genuine gel (black)

Bike 2

Frame: Kinesis Extralight Cyclocross from Bikelabor (56 cm; anodized)
Fork: Advanced Cyclocross full carbon
Headset: Chris King Classic ahead (1 1/8”)
Stem: Syntace Force 99 (1 1/8"; 6°; 120 cm)
Handlebar: 3ttt Less XL (Ø 31.8 mm; 46 cm
Brakehandles: Campagnolo Chorus Ergopower (right), Campagnolo Record carbon (non-Ergo) (left)
Cables: Campagnolo Black
Brakes: Spooky carbon cantilevers
Cranks: FSA monoblade carbon (172.5 cm; 42t.)
Bottom Bracket: Shimano Ultegra
Pedals: Time ATAC XS Carbon
Chain: Campagnolo C10
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Chorus (short cage)
Cassette: Campagnolo Chorus (13-26t)
Hubs: Campagnolo Record (28 h.)
Spokes: Sapim Race (zilver)
Rims: Corima Aero carbon (28 h.)
Inner tubes: Schwalbe
Tires: Schwalbe Fast Fred 700x35c
Seat post: Thomson Elite (330 mm; Ø 27.2 mm)
Seat post clamp:
Saddle: Selle Italia Flite genuine gel (black)

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by Boonen

Nice pair of bikes you got there. Descent build but not too fancy, like a cross bike should be :wink: What I can't understand is why you run clinchers on them? For training that would be OK, but for racing a pair of tubulars would be much better. Get rid of those corima clicher wheels, or at least don't ride them on your cross bike, because you will definetly break them very fast if you plan to race them. For cross racing you often want to lower the pressure in your tires as much as you can to get extra grip. With clinchers you will soon get pinchflats or break the rim. This is why all the racers use tubulars. Get some nice aluminium tub wheels, doesn't have to be anything fancy. The more wheels you got (with different tub's), the more flexible you are at races. You can make quick changes when it starts raining or the course is somehow different than you expected. I'd rather have an extra set of wheels than spend all my money on carbon wheels, but that's up to you ofcourse.
Other thing on your bike's I would change is the cable's, but you can easily do that when they are worn out. Have a look at a closed system, like gore or nokon. The shifting will be better and mud and sand won't get into your cables and clog them up during a race.

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by Oswald

I agree about the Corima wheels... You WILL break them on a cx bike. If you want to use carbon high profile wheels, you should get tubs.

I work in a store that sells Corima wheels and always advise to get the tubular version. I've seen a lot of them break on roadbikes and know that they will not survive any off road use.

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by Timo

Well, I've used custom wheels in my previous cross bike with Corima aero rims, 28 Sapim Race spokes per wheel and Shimano Ultegra hubs. I never encountered any problem with that set. But perhaps I was lucky. I don't race, I use them as allround bikes for commuting, on- and offroad solo and group rides, etc. The bike with mono blade I use at home (flat, flat west of the Netherlands), the other one is at my parents home in France (the Morvan, for those familiar wit France) which is why it has a double. I do 60 to 90 km rides which combine on- and offroad (dunes, single tracks). I prefer clinchers over tubes for easy repair when punctured.

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by Boonen

Because you have 2 the same bikes I assumed you where racing, sorry.
I know clinchers are easier but especially for cross tubulars really make a difference, but I can understand you don't want to ride them. Hope you get a lot of miles out of your corima's!

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by Timo

Bedankt "Boonen" 8)

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by simon

timo, a little detail:i would not mount the brake cable hangers that deep. 1. the tires get stuck with mud and grass faster.
2. the angle for more braking power is better if the cable hanger is mounted nearer to the stem/bar. the best is if the angle between the cable from the brake arm to the cable hanger and the line drawn from the brake boss(where the brake is mounted to the frame, don't know if this is the right word)to the beginning of the cable going to the cable hanger(sorry but that's f...ing difficult to explain without pisc)is about 90°.

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by Timo

Some French bikeshop did that when I needed a new chain when on holiday. Don't ask me why they did it. And if you could see the bikes as they are now, You'd see that they are already changed. The "eye" were the two cables meet is about 3 cm above the lower half of the headset and in the rear it is at the same level (with just enough room to pull the break without the eye hitting the cablestop)

But thanks for the concern! :wink:

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by Mads Kock

Maybe a stupid question but why are your bikes diffirent in size?

Nice looking bikes - I really like the black look!! :D

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Timo
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by Timo

Because "bike 2" is 2 cm more sloping. They both have the same length of head tube and top tube 8)

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by Mads Kock

ah - thanks for sharing :-)

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Timo
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by Timo

For those interested: I just ordered the following updates for Bike 2:

Cranks: Storck Powerarms w/TA Specialité carbon guards (172.5 cm; 42t.)
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo Record (triple)
Wheels: Lightweight 20/20 w/Tune QR's
Cassette: Campagnolo Record titanium (13-26t)
Saddle: Selle Italia C64

The rest of the bike:

Frame: Kinesis Extralight Cyclocross from Bikelabor (56 cm; anodized)
Fork: Advanced Cyclocross full carbon
Headset: Chris King ahead (1 1/8”)
Stem: Syntace Force 99 (1 1/8"; 6°; 120 cm)
Handlebar: 3ttt Less XL (Ø 31.8 mm; 46 cm
Brakehandles: Campagnolo Chorus Ergopower (right), Campagnolo Record carbon (non-Ergo) (left)
Cables: Campagnolo Black
Brakes: Spooky carbon cantilevers
Pedals: Time ATAC XS Carbon
Chain: Campagnolo C10
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Chorus (short cage)
Seat post: Thomson Elite (330 mm; Ø 27.2 mm)
Seat post clamp:

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by Boonen

Hey Timo, nice upgrades you have planned there, you don't see to many LW's on crossbikes! Looks like you went for a pair of tubulars afterall :wink: What tubs are you planning on using?

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