that "perfect" gravel frameset for 2025

[ooo]

update page 2 list with time adh x 45 udh update

How about the Otso Waheela C

no udh? I haven't seen any flip chip hanger design (variable 420-440 chainstay) with udh

[santasci]

I asked FARA about their gravel frame and UDH support and they said "something is coming early spring". Looking forward to their new iteration.

[DrimeOser]

And super long chainstays. Not the prettiest frame either imo.

What's not pretty about it? Am I missing something?
I don't like the really short head tube, but other than that?
Some people don't like dropped chainstays I guess, but most bikes are going that way.

Well, to me the seat tube does look a little boxy and I don't like the fork's forward bend. But aesthetics are solely subjective.

[RDY]

Kinda looking myself at the moment...
How about the Otso Waheela C

700x54
1024g m frame weight

https://otsocycles.com/collections/waheela-c

That cabling is an absolute mess. Ok, you want to do a non-integrated frame, but why on earth would they do an externally routed fork, and with the cable wrapping round the back of the crown

[Requiem84]

I asked FARA about their gravel frame and UDH support and they said "something is coming early spring". Looking forward to their new iteration.

That's great news, I really like their styling. But will take a bit too long for me to wait for this.

[ooo]

Planet X titanium Tempest updated with UDH hanger - 440 mm chainstay, 48 mm clearance

[Vespasianus]

Planet X titanium Tempest updated with UDH hanger - 440 mm chainstay, 48 mm clearance

Great looking bike but no way is it 1500 grams. You can actually weight the tubeset out and see what a straight gauge Chinese titanium set weighs and it is a lot more than that!

[bobones]

I don't think 1550g is far off the mark. I have a large PX Spitfire frame, and it was about that weight. I believe these are manafuctered by Waltly, so the quality is excellent and belies the price.The Spitfire was designed by the late, renowed frame builder, Mark Reilly, and it looks similar to the Reilly T325. I am not sure about the Tempest, but there is a passing resemblence to the Gradient.

[pistonbroke]

Tritao Aviero
Ti 1640g 54cm
700x58 29x2.25
Udh
142x12

https://www.tritaobikes.com/aveiro#specs

[Volsung]

https://www.bird.bike/aerelon/

This looks nice. Is it an open mold frame or their own design?

Definitely their own design. They're a local company to me and I have their carbon fat bike and had their stainless steel gravel bike.

[ooo]

One of the very few UDH framesets that come with fork that have different offsets for different sizes.
And it also has an adjustable chainstay (up to 55c clearance), storage, and ticks all the other boxes.

Rodeo Labs Traildonkey 4.2 UDH (podcast - https://shows.acast.com/the-rodeo-labs-podcast/episodes/fresh-from-the-lab)

[satanas]

^ That Supernova tail light is neat, presumably a fender mount light on a custom bracket.

[Requiem84]

Wow, seems like you found the perfect frameset.

Only minor point I can think of is the weight?

[jayjay]

Rodeo Labs Traildonkey 4.2 UDH
Frame weight: 58cm 1190g raw. Painted frames will be 100-250g heavier.
Other sizes approx. 50-100g lighter per size
Hardware: Approx. 150g.
Fork weight: Average 495g

[Requiem84]

Rodeo Labs Traildonkey 4.2 UDH
Frame weight: 58cm 1190g raw. Painted frames will be 100-250g heavier.
Other sizes approx. 50-100g lighter per size
Hardware: Approx. 150g.
Fork weight: Average 495g

Will be quite a heavey porker, but it looks incredibly good to me and it has insane clearance (2.25 tires fit), UDH and frame storage. The whole shabang.

Does anyone have any experience with this brand? What is their typical quality like?