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Petermeter
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by Petermeter

MVDP running a new Grizl version?

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de lars cuevas
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by de lars cuevas

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_contin ... jIsMjg2NjY

Looks like a standard Grail to me. It's the obvious choice: Racy, with 42mm tyre clearance.

Unless Canyon insists in having him showcase a new, unreleased Grizl of course. 🙂

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Which bikes were Vos and Kopecky riding?

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by de lars cuevas

Kopecki was on a Crux with 38 mm Pathfinders.
My guess would be that Vos was on an Aspero 5. She had 33 mm tyres... with the Gravaa inflation system! https://www.cyclingweekly.com/products/ ... ip-victory

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Laura King on new SuperSix gravel:
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Starts around 3:00 in.

https://youtu.be/Ay8bSqxyiOo?si=3nnNwEihp6PcV2mG


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LeDuke wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:15 am
Laura King on new SuperSix gravel:
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Starts around 3:00 in.

https://youtu.be/Ay8bSqxyiOo?si=3nnNwEihp6PcV2mG


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Insane to me that a pro has a stack of spacers like that and I fee like I'm seeing it more and more. What's going on with bike fits?

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Laura King isn't exactly a pro :-) She is former pro Ted King's wife; she got a spot because most US riders decided not to go due to a lack of support from USA Cycling.

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Insane to me that a pro has a stack of spacers like that and I fee like I'm seeing it more and more. What's going on with bike fits?
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I fear we have to get over it. Less and less pros are trading backpain for a minimal loss of watts.

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Any info about the wheels mvdp was using?

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From Cyclingweekly.com

Van der Poel’s wheel setup was interesting too. The Dutchman is riding what looks to be a ‘frankenbike’ wheelset built with Shimano Dura-Ace hubs, and totally blank, unbranded rims. Currently, the only high-end gravel wheelset Shimano makes is the GRX Carbon wheels.

The rims on MVDP’s bike looked deeper than these 32mm GRX rims at around 40-50mm. Common sense tells us this is one of two things - a non-sponsor custom build wheelset, or perhaps an unreleased wheel from Shimano.

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by Karvalo

LeDuke wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:15 am
Laura King on new SuperSix gravel:
SuperX.

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by otnemem

pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:58 am
From Cyclingweekly.com

Van der Poel’s wheel setup was interesting too. The Dutchman is riding what looks to be a ‘frankenbike’ wheelset built with Shimano Dura-Ace hubs, and totally blank, unbranded rims. Currently, the only high-end gravel wheelset Shimano makes is the GRX Carbon wheels.

The rims on MVDP’s bike looked deeper than these 32mm GRX rims at around 40-50mm. Common sense tells us this is one of two things - a non-sponsor custom build wheelset, or perhaps an unreleased wheel from Shimano.
I wonder if he would have rather taken the Inflite instead, were it not for his obligations.

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Or simply the road bike with slightly larger tires. I believe the riders have to mitigate between the sponsor's wish for marketing and what is quickest. Overall comfort, handling, etc. all goes out of the window when speed is concerned. Those roadies don't even use allroad bikes when taking on Paris-Roubaix.
Nevertheless, I think such an event is about winning and not having fun primarily. Thus, if you want to enjoy such trails, still a dedicated gravel bike is best.

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by Yoln

rhender wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:41 pm
LeDuke wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:15 am
Laura King on new SuperSix gravel:
Image

Starts around 3:00 in.

https://youtu.be/Ay8bSqxyiOo?si=3nnNwEihp6PcV2mG


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Insane to me that a pro has a stack of spacers like that and I fee like I'm seeing it more and more. What's going on with bike fits?
Latest trends in bike fit are definitely longer stems and more spacers. Main idea is opening the hip angle while keeping you just as aero. Generally goes with saddle moved forward (basically whole body shifted forward) to increase glutes engagement, and sometimes shorter crank to help with the 12pm knee angle, and try to have a verticale force vector at 3pm... lots of changes in the recent 3 years in bike fitting. SlamThatStem is long gone, except for crit races and TTs under an hour, but pros cyclist get more and more inspiration from Iron Man fitters and gravel, where comfort is a bigger consideration, and maybe more in line with the type of efforts that the new generation of roadies like to do (longer breakaways, and non stop racing)

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by otnemem

DrimeOser wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:56 pm
Or simply the road bike with slightly larger tires. I believe the riders have to mitigate between the sponsor's wish for marketing and what is quickest. Overall comfort, handling, etc. all goes out of the window when speed is concerned. Those roadies don't even use allroad bikes when taking on Paris-Roubaix.
Nevertheless, I think such an event is about winning and not having fun primarily. Thus, if you want to enjoy such trails, still a dedicated gravel bike is best.
Definitely. I would max out my CX bike's clearance or take a gravel bike if I had one.

In his case I have a hard time imagining him preferring a less racy, heavier bike with clearance he didn't need. But not impossible, especially considering the chance of bad weather.

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