Racey Boutique Gravel Frames?

[Requiem84]

In Europe?

Couldn't say. I've never looked for a bike in Europe.

Yeah, we're not all in the US . A MOG with Red 13s in base trim will cost around 13k eur (14.5k usd?). Best deal I've seen was maybe 12k...

On another note, did anyone see the new Ridkey Astr? Interesting direction that bike is taking:

- 52mm clearance
- 36cm width bar (tops), 40 in the drops
- 890g frame
- Fully aero focused

[MrRolandos]

In Europe?

Couldn't say. I've never looked for a bike in Europe.

Yeah, we're not all in the US . A MOG with Red 13s in base trim will cost around 13k eur (14.5k usd?). Best deal I've seen was maybe 12k...

On another note, did anyone see the new Ridkey Astr? Interesting direction that bike is taking:

- 52mm clearance
- 36cm width bar (tops), 40 in the drops
- 890g frame
- Fully aero focused

Hehe are you regretting the purchase of your TideAce? I do like the kanzo, now Astr option. This one also has 2x option, before it was only 1x setups. An XL option would suit me Paintjobs are boring tho

But good to see them improving, UDH, 2x setup, 52mm clearance in 1x or 47mm in 2x setup. Not bad!

[Requiem84]

In Europe?

Couldn't say. I've never looked for a bike in Europe.

Yeah, we're not all in the US . A MOG with Red 13s in base trim will cost around 13k eur (14.5k usd?). Best deal I've seen was maybe 12k...

On another note, did anyone see the new Ridkey Astr? Interesting direction that bike is taking:

- 52mm clearance
- 36cm width bar (tops), 40 in the drops
- 890g frame
- Fully aero focused

Hehe are you regretting the purchase of your TideAce? I do like the kanzo, now Astr option. This one also has 2x option, before it was only 1x setups. An XL option would suit me Paintjobs are boring tho

But good to see them improving, UDH, 2x setup, 52mm clearance in 1x or 47mm in 2x setup. Not bad!

Zero regrets, as this Ridley is around 11-12k in the spec I want .

But still interesting to see the industry has finally caught up with the trend in gravel bikes. I expect a lot more of these type of new bikes.

[MrRolandos]

Couldn't say. I've never looked for a bike in Europe.

Yeah, we're not all in the US . A MOG with Red 13s in base trim will cost around 13k eur (14.5k usd?). Best deal I've seen was maybe 12k...

On another note, did anyone see the new Ridkey Astr? Interesting direction that bike is taking:

- 52mm clearance
- 36cm width bar (tops), 40 in the drops
- 890g frame
- Fully aero focused

Hehe are you regretting the purchase of your TideAce? I do like the kanzo, now Astr option. This one also has 2x option, before it was only 1x setups. An XL option would suit me Paintjobs are boring tho

But good to see them improving, UDH, 2x setup, 52mm clearance in 1x or 47mm in 2x setup. Not bad!

Zero regrets, as this Ridley is around 11-12k in the spec I want .

But still interesting to see the industry has finally caught up with the trend in gravel bikes. I expect a lot more of these type of new bikes.

Yeah crazy. I looked at it, the non RS variant but regular. With a paintjob of my choice and GRX DI2 12sp. Then you have default wheels, G1800 and already looking at 6k. Aint cheap! And no internal storage either. But yeah its good to see the trend

[twoangstroms]

How do you all feel about the steep head tube angle (over 71 degrees)? That seems to go against trend. I think that's where my 1990s mountain bike with front suspension and 26" wheels was.

[spdntrxi]

I think no storage but the new Ridley ASTR RS looks pretty nice.. lightweight and 52mm clearance and can get custom colorways.

[Requiem84]

I think no storage but the new Ridley ASTR RS looks pretty nice.. lightweight and 52mm clearance and can get custom colorways.

See posts above, we are just discussing it .

[spdntrxi]

yeah I did not slide up enough

[akira11]

oh yes, ridley stepping in the right direction but it's way too expensive

[wirelessness]

I'm building up a Propain Terrel CF. With WG44 wheels and pretty decent kit. Will report back. The frame quality is top notch. The raw carbon is beautiful. It's probably not condidered 'racey' due to the longer chainstays and trail but it should work well for what I plan to use it for.

[akira11]

of course cannondale would keep playing mind games with me as soon as I've bought the tideace frameset

a new supersix gravel (some call it the new superX version) has been spotted at the gravel world champs this past weekend

from what i can see, it has pretty much everything i'm looking for: UDH, huge clearance (and looks amazing!)
here's hoping they went for a threaded BB just like the regular supersix has

if it ends up matching my requirements i will most likely end up swapping the tideace for this

[cerro]

akira11: Awesome spotted, I thought it was the regular version that is now. Seems like it still has the current seatpost and not a new one. Really love the colour

[ckchriskohl]

Went for standert kettensäge bc it hopefully has a good resale value. I am waiting for a New crux in 25 (crossing fingers).standert not built up yet but expecting around 8kg incl. Pedals.

Hi, can you share some pics and also experience about the Standert? How did it turn out eventually?

yeah, ofc

Frame - Standert Kettensäge
Stem - Enve In-Route Carbon 90mm incl. Enve Computer Mount
Bars - Syncros Creston 1.0X 380mm
BarTape - Cannondale (was cheap and thick)
Pedals - XTR (will switch to titan axle soon)
Wheels - 9Velo GV45 2.0 (wide, high and nice)
Tires - Vittoria Mezcal III TNT G+ 2.0 44mm (tubeless)
Seatpost - ElitaOne 350mm
Bootle cages - Mana (AliExpress)
Saddle - Prologo Scratch M5 Nack Carbon (currently testing different ones)
Groupset - SRAM RED XPLR AXS Wide Disc HRD Flat Mount Gravel 1x13 | Powermeter (165mm crank, 40t)
Brake Disc - Galfer 2x160mm

Current weight 8.49kg, aiming for 8.37kg
Weight optimization next weeks
- 20g titan screws (AliExpress)
- 40g titan pedal axle (Titaniumplanet)
- 60g saddle (prob. AliExpress, got two lying around alrdy)
Still weight is top for aluminium frame and chunky tires and steel spokes.

The Build was quite straightforward. Did 3 rides yet, handles really nice. I do have almost the same position on it as on my SL8 which feels nice. Only saddle is like 1-2cm more forward so that I am slightly more upright which is fine for gravel. Maybe 100mm stem would have fit as well, but on the other hand its a gravel and you want good handling. I can feel the bigger distance from BB to the ground due to big tires, nice on rougher terrain. Bar has significant flare so downhill in the drops very nice, on flat you can still get quite aero in the hoods.

The Weight is a little higher (200g) than expected, so a lighter frame is still in the back of my mind. Hoping for new Crux in 2025. Then maybe one piece cockpit so I might be able to shave off 900g or more. This would give me <7.5kg with 44mm tires and steel spokes (for comofort and repairs)

Not able to upload an image directly, so you got to wait for Instagram pictures

Best Chris
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IG - ckchriskohl

@Ytse

[Requiem84]

Gotta say, looks awesome.

[MarkoP]

Gotta say, looks awesome.

Agreed!