What does your gravel bike weigh with and without wheels?

[hwyix]

7.80 kg / 17.2 pounds, no pedals
4.62 kg / 10.2 lbs without wheels or pedals


Ridden and Reviewed: Fuji Altimara CX 1.1 Cyclocross Race Bike
Clifford Lee — February 19, 2019
https://www.cxmagazine.com/review-2019- ... -race-bike


Weight: 17.2 pounds, no pedals; 10.2 lbs without wheels or pedals


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9.16 kg / 20.2 pounds complete
5.17 kg / 11.4 pounds without wheels

Ridden and Reviewed: 3T Exploro Team Force Aero Gravel Bike
Clifford Lee — August 8, 2019
https://www.cxmagazine.com/bike-review- ... ero-gravel


The 3T Exploro Team Force as we tested it is 20.2 pounds complete, 11.4 pounds without wheels. The retail price is $4,199.

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8.39 kg / 18.5 pounds (no pedals)
5.21 kg / 11.5 pounds (no wheels, no pedals)


Ridden and Reviewed: Look 765 RS Gravel Bike
Clifford Lee — January 14, 2020

https://www.cxmagazine.com/bike-review- ... am-force-1


Weight: 18.5 pounds (no pedals), 11.5 pounds (no wheels, no pedals)


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8.61 kg / 19.0 pounds The full setup weighs
5.44 kg / 12.0 pounds without pedals and without wheels.


Ridden and Reviewed: 2020 Specialized Diverge Expert Gravel Bike
Clifford Lee — December 4, 2019
https://www.cxmagazine.com/bike-review- ... ture-shock

The full setup weighs 19.0 pounds without pedals and 12.0 pounds without wheels.


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8.52 kg / 18.8 pounds full build weighed
5.76 kg / 12.7 pounds without pedals and without wheels

Ridden and Reviewed: Oregon-Made Sage Titanium PDXCX
Clifford Lee — March 25, 2018
https://www.cxmagazine.com/sage-titaniu ... vel-oregon

The full build weighed 18.8 pounds without pedals and 12.7 pounds without wheels.


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10.04 kg / 22.15 pounds without pedals
5.87 kg / 12.95 pounds without wheels


Bike Review: Diamondback’s Haanjo EXP Carbon Adventure/Touring Bike
andrew — September 17, 2018
https://www.cxmagazine.com/review-diamo ... -adventure

Weight: 22.15 pounds without pedals, 12.95 pounds without wheels.

[OnTheRivet]

I work at a Santa Cruz dealer. The couple Stigmatas that have come through seemed heavy. That company hasn't made a light frame in a long time and their parts specs always seem to ignore weight so I'd expect their gravel frame and complete to be on the heavy side, but their stuff is durable.

They don't have to make light frames, they pushed the media to continually say "weight doesn't matter" until they bought it. If you cut open a Santa Cruz Tallboy CC from 2014 and compare it to a cut open New tallboy you would see where the weight is. The expensive process of building a Frame without excess resin is no longer used and the insides of the new carbon frames look terrible.

[Lelandjt]

I work at a Santa Cruz dealer. The couple Stigmatas that have come through seemed heavy. That company hasn't made a light frame in a long time and their parts specs always seem to ignore weight so I'd expect their gravel frame and complete to be on the heavy side, but their stuff is durable.

They don't have to make light frames, they pushed the media to continually say "weight doesn't matter" until they bought it. If you cut open a Santa Cruz Tallboy CC from 2014 and compare it to a cut open New tallboy you would see where the weight is. The expensive process of building a Frame without excess resin is no longer used and the insides of the new carbon frames look terrible.

Interesting to hear.

[hwyix]

From what I read ( no first hand knowledge ) the Stigmata frame is not heavy. It's around 1200g. Just avg. Seems like most carbon frames weigh about this much. Ibis mx is like 1000g which is consindered lite for the price $2100 framset. S-works Crux is the bench mark at 725g sells for 5k for the frameset.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/santa-c ... -groading/

Weight:
1,600 g (claimed, frame and fork only); 8.57 kg (18.89 lb, without pedals, size 52 cm)

carbon forks seem to weight around 400 grams. so the frame should be around 1200 grams.

[Lelandjt]

From what I read ( no first hand knowledge ) the Stigmata frame is not heavy. It's around 1200g. Just avg. Seems like most carbon frames weigh about this much. Ibis mx is like 1000g which is consindered lite for the price $2100 framset. S-works Crux is the bench mark at 725g sells for 5k for the frameset.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/santa-c ... -groading/

Weight:
1,600 g (claimed, frame and fork only); 8.57 kg (18.89 lb, without pedals, size 52 cm)

carbon forks seem to weight around 400 grams. so the frame should be around 1200 grams.

1200g sure seems heavy to me for a carbon gravel frame. There are cheap carbon MTB frames that are lighter and you even point out that the Ibis is 1/2lb lighter and the Specialized over 1lb lighter. That's a lot of weight difference when talking about rigid frames made from the same material.

[OnTheRivet]

From what I read ( no first hand knowledge ) the Stigmata frame is not heavy. It's around 1200g. Just avg. Seems like most carbon frames weigh about this much. Ibis mx is like 1000g which is consindered lite for the price $2100 framset. S-works Crux is the bench mark at 725g sells for 5k for the frameset.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/santa-c ... -groading/

Weight:
1,600 g (claimed, frame and fork only); 8.57 kg (18.89 lb, without pedals, size 52 cm)

carbon forks seem to weight around 400 grams. so the frame should be around 1200 grams.

My 53cm (rides like a 55) Niner BSB was 992g back in 2018 when weight mattered.

[hwyix]

From what I read ( no first hand knowledge ) the Stigmata frame is not heavy. It's around 1200g. Just avg. Seems like most carbon frames weigh about this much. Ibis mx is like 1000g which is consindered lite for the price $2100 framset. S-works Crux is the bench mark at 725g sells for 5k for the frameset.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/santa-c ... -groading/

Weight:
1,600 g (claimed, frame and fork only); 8.57 kg (18.89 lb, without pedals, size 52 cm)

carbon forks seem to weight around 400 grams. so the frame should be around 1200 grams.

1200g sure seems heavy to me for a carbon gravel frame. There are cheap carbon MTB frames that are lighter and you even point out that the Ibis is 1/2lb lighter and the Specialized over 1lb lighter. That's a lot of weight difference when talking about rigid frames made from the same material.

If you have list of gravel bike framesets that weigh less than 1000 grams that you buy new today, threaded bottom bracket and cost less than $2700 ( stigmata frameset cost ) please share them. I know you can buy an s-works frame set 700 grams ish but that frame is 5k.

From my reseach most fully built gravel bikes that cost less than 6k ish ( so frame is probably 2 to 3k ish ) all have frames that weight more than 1000 grams.

A lot of hard tail mnt bike frames have a smaller triangle the a gravle bike. So it would make sense that the could be lighter.

Santa Cruz that makes the Stigma fram weight around 1200 grams also make the hardball hard tail. It weighs about 1100 grams.
https://www.coloradocyclist.com/santa-c ... 3A%20100mm.

S-works cruz gravel bike frameset weighs around 725 grams
S-works epic hard tail frame weighs around 750 grams
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/a3 ... e%20medium.


Mnt bike hard tail and gravel bike frames weigh about the same. No new news there.

[froze]

My Masi Giramondo 700c according to the factory weighed 32 pounds without pannier racks front and rear, with them the bike weighed 36 pounds, that was factory stated weight including the crappy Kenda Drumlin tires that weigh 2,200 grams for the pair! I have since took those tires off and replaced them with Schwalbe Almotion tires (TLE on the rear and V-Guard on the front) that weigh around 1,100 grams for the pair, so now my bike weighs around 30 pounds without the pannier racks, and 34 with; and the road feel on the bike is better, it rolls a tad faster, as well as better wet traction, gravel wise about the same from what I could tell even though the Schwalbe tires are 7 mm narrower (which is perfect for my fenders, before I had virtually no clearance for the fenders, if the fenders went out of adjustment just a hair it would rub against the tires, not anymore).

[rjich]

I was going to purchase a Stigmata but ended up buying the non s works Crux as it's apparently 825g Vs 1200. So near 30% lighter than the stigmata. (Or the stigmata is 50% heavier depending on how you mash the numbers). I purchased the Crux Comp bike at 3750ukp and sold the parts I didn't need to replace with my preferred set up. Both great bikes no doubt but since it was carbon I thought why not save the grams.

I haven't weighted the crux without wheels cos it didn't seem very rideable in that configuration!

[hwyix]

I was going to purchase a Stigmata but ended up buying the non s works Crux as it's apparently 825g Vs 1200. So near 30% lighter than the stigmata. (Or the stigmata is 50% heavier depending on how you mash the numbers). I purchased the Crux Comp bike at 3750ukp and sold the parts I didn't need to replace with my preferred set up. Both great bikes no doubt but since it was carbon I thought why not save the grams.

I haven't weighted the crux without wheels cos it didn't seem very rideable in that configuration!

That's a nice bike.

Wheels and tires is such a big variable depending on where you live and what you want to ride. Tires and wheels weigh more than frame and forks. I think most of us on this board probably have our own wheels and tire combo we like that we are going to replace the factories ones with if you are on a forum like this.

I really like how www.cxmagazine.com list the weights with and without the wheels/tires when the review a bike. Then it's pretty easy to see how much that bike the combos you already have at home.

there's 480 difference between these wheel/tire combo are close in size. I have some light carbon wheels with gp5000 25mm road tires that is lighter.

gravel kings 32mm 3.230 kg




schwalbe g-one 35mm 3.710 kg



in the states cruz frame is $3200 and sold out :/

[rjich]

Thanks for the detailed response!

My wheels are around 1500gm and tires about 870gm or whatever the s works Pathfinder would be, tubes about 70 each for tubolito cx. An xtr 11-40 cassette is 330, a brake disc is 100 GM ish a piece for xtr 160.

[nick676]

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[bmCube]

My cervélo aspero with campagnolo ekar weighs 4,830 kg without wheels
I have two sets of wheels: Campagnolo shamal with road tires and inner tubes that weighs 2,930 kg complete (pirelli 4 seasons 28mm, 9-36 cassette, campa rotors) and a set of gravel wheels that weighs complete 2,885 kg ( challenge getaway, 9-42 cassette, katalysator rotors, stans sealant)
So complete in road modus: 7,760 kg and in gravel modus 7,715. So almot the same weight in road and gravel modus

[hwyix]

I just bought a ibis mx 650b, 1x grx setup.
Size 55




bike and wheels
8.255 kg / 18.20 lbs







bike no wheels
4.845 kg / 10.68 lbs