Rode the SL8 today. Quite a nice bike. It is pretty agressive though. More Ultimate than Endurace.TTRV wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:18 am
Looks pretty good. Kind of like a mix between the Endurace and the Grail.
Lots of mounts for everything and big tire clearance (up to 50c)
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The geo/tire clearance/weight is what I have been waiting for for years. I do still wonder if you can run it with a 650x2.1 or if the chain stays are shaped such that it won't fit. BB drop isn't so insane that pedal clearance would be an issue.

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That's quite clever actually: the Endurace is aimed at people trying to consolidate the race look with their geometry needs, but a "utility roadbike" like the Grizl isn't invested in that aesthetic anyways. In that context, huge spacer stacks and riser stems are a confident "I know what I want". And another part of the market for this bike are those who'd ride something like an Ultimate or an Aeroad unless doing an an unsupported and many of those would likely prefer to stay close to their usual geometry.
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Not sure, in terms of reach and stack is certainly pretty close to the Ultimate, at least in size XL which would be my size...
pretty much identical stack and 2cm longer reach but comes with a shorter stem...
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sorry, wanted to say it's pretty close to the Endurace, not Ultimate in size XL
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That's a cool bike, they had to get rid of that Grail Fiasco, they lost a lot of sales because of that. I just wish someone would come up with a more elegant way to mount stuff to the fork that those ugly ass zits or have a regular fork as an option. I will never bike pack and that would make a nice race bike.
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Similar Geo and tire clearance can be found on Open UP(PER), for years now.
It has a little less reach, but is generally delivered with a little longer stem.
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it's also about 3x as expensive 

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I noticed the same, I am also riding an XL Endurace.saldegracia wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:21 pmsorry, wanted to say it's pretty close to the Endurace, not Ultimate in size XL
The Grizl temps me as I would love to have 40c tires on my Endurace, other than that I am perfectly happy with it.
2cm less reach and a very slack STA. I ride my gravel bike mostly on short janky MTB trails that aren't worth taking my proper bike too so I want as long of reach as possible. I would prefer something even longer than the Canyon to be able to run a 70mm stem but this is as good as it's gotten so far, outside of bikes like the Hatchet which has a lot more stack and Nukeproof Digger which is likely pretty heavy. I have a custom bike that had built in 2017 because every gravel bike I rode felt overwhelmingly short and if I would do it again I would go even longer.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:18 amSimilar Geo and tire clearance can be found on Open UP(PER), for years now.
It has a little less reach, but is generally delivered with a little longer stem.
After 6 years with my Endurance bike (Cannondale Synable Hi-Mod Black Carbon) I decided to go for a Grizl CF Slx 8 Di2 even if my recent experience with Canyon was not that great... My Aerorad CF SLX 8 DISC Di2 is still "sleeping" in my garage for an updated handlebar (:-().
Since I wanted to go for a bikepacking tour (4-5 days and +/- 1.000 km) in France as soon as the situation will allow it, I decided to buy a Grizl the day it was announced as it was on stock something that's not so common currently... and it arived today!
I took the optional Apidura bags and the Aerorbars as well.
First trip today and very positive. The bike is very responsive and confortable. As it is a XS size it came with DT Swiss GRC1400 Spline 650b wheels, I really enjoyed the agility and the reactivity of this set up. The proposed developments are a bit "short" for me as I'm used to ride with a 52/36 and 11/28 but I trust that with a 11/28 cassette it will just be perfect. I found the bike really fast on tarmac with a good " push" from the wheels. I went on a typical 1.5 km Belgian paved road as well (My Cannondale doen't really like it) and the difference is spectacular. Very smooth compared to the Cannondale equiped with Vision Metron 40 SL and 28 mm Corsa Graphene 2. The tires are Schwalbe G-One Bite 45mm and so far so good.
I was also pleasantly surprised with its climbing capability. It's not a very light bike but it's still pretty fast and it feels very responsive when you push harder! I didn't like the saddle (Fizik Argo Terra X5) although, maybe because I love my Carbon Coco Design saddle...
Anyway, in a nutshel, very good bike and great value for the money as far as I'm concerned!
Since I wanted to go for a bikepacking tour (4-5 days and +/- 1.000 km) in France as soon as the situation will allow it, I decided to buy a Grizl the day it was announced as it was on stock something that's not so common currently... and it arived today!

First trip today and very positive. The bike is very responsive and confortable. As it is a XS size it came with DT Swiss GRC1400 Spline 650b wheels, I really enjoyed the agility and the reactivity of this set up. The proposed developments are a bit "short" for me as I'm used to ride with a 52/36 and 11/28 but I trust that with a 11/28 cassette it will just be perfect. I found the bike really fast on tarmac with a good " push" from the wheels. I went on a typical 1.5 km Belgian paved road as well (My Cannondale doen't really like it) and the difference is spectacular. Very smooth compared to the Cannondale equiped with Vision Metron 40 SL and 28 mm Corsa Graphene 2. The tires are Schwalbe G-One Bite 45mm and so far so good.
I was also pleasantly surprised with its climbing capability. It's not a very light bike but it's still pretty fast and it feels very responsive when you push harder! I didn't like the saddle (Fizik Argo Terra X5) although, maybe because I love my Carbon Coco Design saddle...
Anyway, in a nutshel, very good bike and great value for the money as far as I'm concerned!
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Great write up, wish you many good times on it!! Post some pictures, please ! 
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