Alloy rims for gravel

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montee
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by montee

Looking to get some wheels for 40-43mm tyres. 700c/29".

What are some good rim options - ideally 22-24mm internal, not too heavy.
- DT GR 531 (24mm internal, 535g)
- Duke World Runner 25 (22mm, 465g)
- Duke Lucky Star Ultra (23.5mm, 360g - but only 16mm deep, 90kg limit)

Would anyone like to share experience with these or any others?

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by kervelo

The HED emporia rims are available separately too.
https://hedcycling.com/products/belgium-g-rims/

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montee
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by montee

Do HED have distributors in Europe?

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by morganb

Kinlin TL23, 470g for 700C. I had a pair laced to a set of WI CLD hubs 4 years ago with Sapim Lasers and they have not needed touched once. I ride MTB trails on my gravel bike and it gets the most miles of anything I own. I now have a huge dent in the rear from flatting in a rock garden but the wheel is still true and holds air.

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by Relientk1202

I’d think in Europe the clear choice would be Hunt Gravel X-Wide wheels. I like the set I have and they are relatively lite.


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montee
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by montee

Thanks, nothing against Hunt but I'd rather go with different hubs. Hence looking for feedback on which rims to choose.

Anyone here riding on GR 531 or World Runners?

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by kervelo

montee wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:16 am
Do HED have distributors in Europe?
The HED store delivers to EU too:
https://store.hedcycling.com/

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by jemima

24mm inner : 380gm Fun-Works Atmosphere SL

25mm inner : 400gm Newmen Evolution SL X.A.25
Curve Grovel ti.

montee
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by montee

Interesting. MTB wheels are completely new to me - should I expect to notice much difference in ride/performance between a super-shallow 32-hole rim that looks more like a 29er wheel, and a shallow-ish 24-hole rim that looks more like a road bike wheel?

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by jfranci3

Look at XC rims as well. They'd typically have higher spoke counts, asymmetric rims (good), no aero profile (4-5w with a tire size you'd never run), and are probably more flexible.

When you get to HED prices, you might as well look at CN carbon rims for $140-150 ea. They'll be a lot more durable and allow more options.

Swiss RR481 rim as well. It's a touch narrower than the G531. If you're buying two Swiss rims, there's no reason not to just buy an off the shelf wheelset. The C1800/cr1600/g1800/gr1600 etc

If you're going 40-43, you might want to look at 650b for stand over height.

montee
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by montee

Thanks JF. You're right HED are not cheap. Personal preference is Hope over DT hubs, which comes in same sort of price as an off the shelf DT wheel with DT350s.

The rims Jemima suggested are XC (right?). Any thoughts on how an XC rim gravel wheel will ride compared with an "all road" (i.e. DT or whatever) style?

My frame has a pretty low BB so, even with 40-43, 700c looks a better bet.

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by jfranci3

Got ya. You're making up for that low BB with more tire though, they typically don't recommend 650b so you don't run a 32 or 35c with it. 650b is only 20mm lower, so unless you're riding single track, it's no big deal.

I'd just do 60eur Swiss rims . Theyre a bit porky, but you can bang up a few and more available. The 170eur HED rim or 140eur Astral rim isn't going to do anything for you. You're basically trading weight for an aero profile and price. The big tires catch cross winds, so the aero shape helps.
In a secondary use, The g531 would be a bit aero with a 28-30 tires; the RR481 would need a 25c. The HED rims would not do anything aero wise do to the V profile and specific sizes. The MTB rims usually don't have enough "dome" to help with the wind. Keep in mind that the extra tire

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Have a look at DT Swiss XR331. I have both 29 & 650b versions on Hope RS4 and am very happy with them. Sub 400g rim.


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by petromyzon

People rave about the quality of Easton and HED rims (same factory IIRC).
Given that we are now in the disc era and you shouldn't wear them out unless you ride very aggressively, you could treat yourself?! A lot of money though.

Otherwise what about Stan's Grail Mk3 or Crest Mk3, depending on whether you want the flexibility to use road pressures or not?

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by CamW

montee wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:54 am

What are some good rim options - ideally 22-24mm internal, not too heavy.
- DT GR 531 (24mm internal, 535g)
535g if you are very lucky... Mine came in at more like 575g. Seem pretty solid so far but you'd bloody hope so at that weight!

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