New Cervelo Áspero Gravel bike

Especially for light weight issues concerning cyclocross / touring bikes & parts.

Moderator: Moderator Team

Post Reply
NYCPrynne
Posts: 81
Joined: Sat May 27, 2006 6:39 pm

by NYCPrynne

Sorry to bring this thread back to its original topic, but this is an interesting review:

https://gravelcyclist.com/videos/cervel ... avel-bike/

LegPower
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm
Location: San Francisco

by LegPower

Js2 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:03 am
Very nice, ended up putting a deposit to order a custom color 3T exploro team :P Will be here about 3 weeks or so :mrgreen:
I decided to go for a 650b wheelset for now and maybe get a 700c down the line. Post some pic of your stigmata!
How do I post pics? I'm new at this...

by Weenie


User avatar
VTR1000SP2
Posts: 783
Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:21 pm

by VTR1000SP2

NYCPrynne wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:39 am
Sorry to bring this thread back to its original topic, but this is an interesting review:

https://gravelcyclist.com/videos/cervel ... avel-bike/
Cheers for that :beerchug:

Js2
Posts: 116
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 6:55 pm

by Js2

LegPower wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:28 am
Js2 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:03 am
Very nice, ended up putting a deposit to order a custom color 3T exploro team :P Will be here about 3 weeks or so :mrgreen:
I decided to go for a 650b wheelset for now and maybe get a 700c down the line. Post some pic of your stigmata!
How do I post pics? I'm new at this...
i think you have to upload the photo somewhere and then use the full editor on the message body to insert the photo via img url: [img]http://image_url[/img]

LegPower
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm
Location: San Francisco

by LegPower

Js2 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:45 pm
LegPower wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:28 am
Js2 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:03 am
Very nice, ended up putting a deposit to order a custom color 3T exploro team :P Will be here about 3 weeks or so :mrgreen:
I decided to go for a 650b wheelset for now and maybe get a 700c down the line. Post some pic of your stigmata!
How do I post pics? I'm new at this...
i think you have to upload the photo somewhere and then use the full editor on the message body to insert the photo via img url: [img]http://image_url[/img]
Got it! Will do once I have my new wheels put on. I had ordered new tires that were stolen off my porch over the weekend so should have the replacements tomorrow :evil:

LegPower
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm
Location: San Francisco

by LegPower

Stendhal wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:43 am
Stendhal wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:24 am
Ready for some bike p*rn? I took a picture of Vance the owner of Cupertino Cycles with my new size 56 teal frame.

I can't figure out now how to insert the image directly (although I have done that in the past), but I posted it to Instagram. It's the most recent picture under my user name stendhal.ca (ignore the f-a-t one before it!)

I'll keep trying to insert directly -- I want to send this out now first so I do not lost the content

Now for the truly great part -- Vance weighed it. As you can see from the picture (sic), we left some of the foam covers on. Also, the thru axles were on. It looks like the bottom gravel guard (per rasyad, 55g) also was on. So I expected a high number. Vance weighed it: 2.12. I thought, "2.12 kg, gee that's high even with the thru axles." The scale, however, was in pounds. That works out to 961 grams. Even if the scale was off, and this is a #1 class shop, it'd have to be w-a-y off to produce a weighty result.

Current estimate of the final build (w/ size 35 tires and Easton EC90C 46-30 cranks) is a featherweight 7.456 kg = 16.44 pounds. Yowza!
Build plan with estimated weights (many based on actual measurements)

Frame Aspero size 56 961g
Fork Cervelo 450g (rasyad weighed)

Drivetrain + brakes
-- crankset (172.5mm) Easton EC90 SL w/46-30 rings 529g
-- bottom bracket Easton BB360-BBRight 91g
-- chain KMC X11 SL 241g
-- front derailleur SRAM Force 22 91g
-- rear derailleur SRAM Force 22 medium cage 191g
-- shifters, brakes, cables SRAM Red 22 744g
-- derailleur cables SRAM 100g (WAG estimate)
-- pedals LOOK Keo Blade II 248g (slightly above quoted weight)

Cockpit
Headset FSA IS2 65g (third party site)
Bars 3T Ernova Team (partly painted white for now, will ditch that later) 195g
Bar tape Z-attack teal 60 g (WAG guess, does not look super thick)
Bar ends Supacaz yellow 0g
Stem Kalloy Uno 90mm -- negative 7 degrees 102g (bless you Fairwheel bikes!)
Spacers WOODMan blue -- 20mm below stem, 5 mm above 20g

Seat cluster
Seatpost Cervelo 185g (rasyad weighed)
Seatpost clamp Cervelo 20g (guess)
Saddle S-Works Power Arc 143mm 143g (BTW Secialized is out of this in black)

Wheels
Clincher disc wheels November GOAT 28 1400g (spec 1370g, wrighed closer to 1420g on my scale)
Tires Donnelly X'Plor USH 120 TPI 35mm [2 tires] 750g (far above quoted 340g / tire)
Cassette ZTTO 11-32 218g (this is the experimental part of the build)
Tubes Standard 300g (good guess) (not yet tubeless)
Rotors + lockrings SRAM Centerline X 160mm [2 rotors] 252g (rotors were 242g actual, above quoted weights)
12mm thru axles R.A.T. ? 100g (guess; I think the frameset includes the RAT

TOTAL (g) 7466 (surely will be higher when grease, etc included)
Lbs 16.46
Hey! I want to install an Easton EC90 SL crankset on my Aspero. I'm doing it with a 1x setup Ultegra/XTR Di2. How many spacers did you need to setup the crankset with the BBRight BB? What side did you put them on? Any pics?

User avatar
Stendhal
Posts: 195
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:43 am
Location: Silicon Valley

by Stendhal

LegPower wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:13 pm
Stendhal wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:43 am
Stendhal wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:24 am
Ready for some bike p*rn? I took a picture of Vance the owner of Cupertino Cycles with my new size 56 teal frame.

I can't figure out now how to insert the image directly (although I have done that in the past), but I posted it to Instagram. It's the most recent picture under my user name stendhal.ca (ignore the f-a-t one before it!)

I'll keep trying to insert directly -- I want to send this out now first so I do not lost the content

Now for the truly great part -- Vance weighed it. As you can see from the picture (sic), we left some of the foam covers on. Also, the thru axles were on. It looks like the bottom gravel guard (per rasyad, 55g) also was on. So I expected a high number. Vance weighed it: 2.12. I thought, "2.12 kg, gee that's high even with the thru axles." The scale, however, was in pounds. That works out to 961 grams. Even if the scale was off, and this is a #1 class shop, it'd have to be w-a-y off to produce a weighty result.

Current estimate of the final build (w/ size 35 tires and Easton EC90C 46-30 cranks) is a featherweight 7.456 kg = 16.44 pounds. Yowza!
Build plan with estimated weights (many based on actual measurements)

Frame Aspero size 56 961g
Fork Cervelo 450g (rasyad weighed)

Drivetrain + brakes
-- crankset (172.5mm) Easton EC90 SL w/46-30 rings 529g
-- bottom bracket Easton BB360-BBRight 91g
-- chain KMC X11 SL 241g
-- front derailleur SRAM Force 22 91g
-- rear derailleur SRAM Force 22 medium cage 191g
-- shifters, brakes, cables SRAM Red 22 744g
-- derailleur cables SRAM 100g (WAG estimate)
-- pedals LOOK Keo Blade II 248g (slightly above quoted weight)

Cockpit
Headset FSA IS2 65g (third party site)
Bars 3T Ernova Team (partly painted white for now, will ditch that later) 195g
Bar tape Z-attack teal 60 g (WAG guess, does not look super thick)
Bar ends Supacaz yellow 0g
Stem Kalloy Uno 90mm -- negative 7 degrees 102g (bless you Fairwheel bikes!)
Spacers WOODMan blue -- 20mm below stem, 5 mm above 20g

Seat cluster
Seatpost Cervelo 185g (rasyad weighed)
Seatpost clamp Cervelo 20g (guess)
Saddle S-Works Power Arc 143mm 143g (BTW Secialized is out of this in black)

Wheels
Clincher disc wheels November GOAT 28 1400g (spec 1370g, wrighed closer to 1420g on my scale)
Tires Donnelly X'Plor USH 120 TPI 35mm [2 tires] 750g (far above quoted 340g / tire)
Cassette ZTTO 11-32 218g (this is the experimental part of the build)
Tubes Standard 300g (good guess) (not yet tubeless)
Rotors + lockrings SRAM Centerline X 160mm [2 rotors] 252g (rotors were 242g actual, above quoted weights)
12mm thru axles R.A.T. ? 100g (guess; I think the frameset includes the RAT

TOTAL (g) 7466 (surely will be higher when grease, etc included)
Lbs 16.46
Hey! I want to install an Easton EC90 SL crankset on my Aspero. I'm doing it with a 1x setup Ultegra/XTR Di2. How many spacers did you need to setup the crankset with the BBRight BB? What side did you put them on? Any pics?
LP I am just about to go on a business trip so I’ll send a fuller report (including a road update) later. (Spoiler alert: SRAM Red cassettes work much better than ZTTO.). As to EC90, Easton sells a combination BB386 \ BBright bottom bracket and to my recollection, the included instructions have a diagram that shows where to add spacers to fit the BBright shell. That diagram also may be on the Easton web site. I went with the Easton bracket to get the best compatibility with the Easton crank, also the BB is cheap and light (under 100g).
Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL6 (6.39 kg), Cervelo Aspero (7.87)
Retired: LOW// mki, Pinarello Dogma F10 \ F8, Lapierre Pulsium, TIME Fluidity, Wilier Cento1 SR, Ridley Noah, Cyfac Cadence, Cervelo S2, R3, R5, Felt Z25, Klein Quantum, Cannondale 2.0

User avatar
VTR1000SP2
Posts: 783
Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:21 pm

by VTR1000SP2

Here is the Easton BBRight guide: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0061/ ... .pdf?62356

Coincidentally, I'm going to be selling my used EC90SL crankset. It has 170mm arms and a 38T ring installed.

LegPower
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm
Location: San Francisco

by LegPower

VTR1000SP2 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:50 pm
Here is the Easton BBRight guide: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0061/ ... .pdf?62356

Coincidentally, I'm going to be selling my used EC90SL crankset. It has 170mm arms and a 38T ring installed.
Send me a PM, I might be interested... :D

Dazed2day
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:07 pm

by Dazed2day

Just picked up the Ultegra RX version. Was debating on getting the GRX or frameset and building my own, but got a crazy good deal on the RX version, so I couldn't pass it up. Very excited, though a bit disappointed with the weight... 20.5lbs! I was expecting something closer to 19lbs where I could shave a lbs or so by getting some better wheels, seatpost and bars... and maybe cassette. I mean, sure, it's only 1.5 lbs, but it feels like a heavy bike.

The other bike I was considering was the Ibis Hakka... I didn't get to weigh it, but just lifting it up you can feel it's MUCH lighter, like at least 3lbs lighter. It feels much closer to my road bike at 16 lbs.

With my planned upgrades, I should be able to get it to 19lbs, but would have been nice to be upgrading down to 17.5lbs. Oh well.

User avatar
VTR1000SP2
Posts: 783
Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:21 pm

by VTR1000SP2

Dazed2day wrote:
With my planned upgrades, I should be able to get it to 19lbs, but would have been nice to be upgrading down to 17.5lbs. Oh well.
Congrats!

I think you can do it, maybe not within your planned budget but definitely possible.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Js2
Posts: 116
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 6:55 pm

by Js2

Dazed2day wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:58 am
Just picked up the Ultegra RX version. Was debating on getting the GRX or frameset and building my own, but got a crazy good deal on the RX version, so I couldn't pass it up. Very excited, though a bit disappointed with the weight... 20.5lbs! I was expecting something closer to 19lbs where I could shave a lbs or so by getting some better wheels, seatpost and bars... and maybe cassette. I mean, sure, it's only 1.5 lbs, but it feels like a heavy bike.

The other bike I was considering was the Ibis Hakka... I didn't get to weigh it, but just lifting it up you can feel it's MUCH lighter, like at least 3lbs lighter. It feels much closer to my road bike at 16 lbs.

With my planned upgrades, I should be able to get it to 19lbs, but would have been nice to be upgrading down to 17.5lbs. Oh well.
The 3T Exploro Team I demo'd in the force 1x setup was 8.8kg 19.4 lbs w/ my 105 road pedals. It has pretty decent spec except for the heavy wheelset and standard aluminum rail wtb saddle. Hoping I can get it down to 17 lbs with some lighter saddle, and wheelset/tire combo.

yinzerniner
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:54 pm

by yinzerniner

Dazed2day wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:58 am
Just picked up the Ultegra RX version. Was debating on getting the GRX or frameset and building my own, but got a crazy good deal on the RX version, so I couldn't pass it up. Very excited, though a bit disappointed with the weight... 20.5lbs!

With my planned upgrades, I should be able to get it to 19lbs, but would have been nice to be upgrading down to 17.5lbs. Oh well.
Doesn't really come as that much of a surprise since the kit and groupset on the Aspero GRX are kinda porky.

You can conceivably take a lot of weight off by simply:
Ditching the wheels for a better set -150-200g
Replacing the EA50 cockpit items -250-300g
Going with a lighter crankset -100g
Lighter Tires -100-150g
Lighter Saddle -50-100g

Add it up and you're at -650-850g or 1.4-1.9lbs, or 18.5-19lbs for the build. And that's before getting super weight weenie (light carbon cockpit, 35-38c tires, carbon crank, light saddle), which you can take off another 300-550g or .6-1.2lbs for a total weight of 17.2-18.4lbs.
20.5 lbs for a stock 2x all-road bike really isn't that bad.

LegPower
Posts: 38
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 pm
Location: San Francisco

by LegPower

I'm half way through my build right now on the Aspero. I went with the Apex 1 and stripped everything off. If anyone needs an Apex group let me know 😉

So far it's got:
-Easton EC70 AX bars (42cm)
-Easton EC90 SL crankset (170mm and 42T)
-Ultegra R8070 + XTR di2
-Berk Lupina Saddle
-WTB Resolute tires (700x42)

I'm waiting on:
-Enve G23 wheels
-Sram XG-1195 Cassette
-FSA K-Force Light seatpost

All in I should be under 8kg with pedals. My 3T Exploro LTD was 7.8kg with heavier wheels / tires.

From a ride perspective, it's MUCH more comfortable than the 3T and when they said it was fast, they weren't kidding. I got some PRs on descents without even trying! I haven't pushed it uphill yet as I was with a buddy who is pretty slow, but plan to this weekend.

I really wish I could post pics...

spdntrxi
Posts: 3141
Joined: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:11 pm

by spdntrxi

G23- check great wheels ..love mine
XG1195--- I would have went for 1199.. I not sure the 1195 large cog is replacable.. I know my 1199 is and that large cog wears out fast if you use it.. it's pretty soft Al.
FSA post... before I switched to a dropper, I was using a Darimo, thing was 78g

by Weenie


Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post