Thanks mate, unfortunately expensive and hard to source in the UKKubackjeee wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:52 pmDid not use this one, but if u need a wide fast and robust tire I can recommend tufo thundero HD with effetto Mariposa caffelatex sealant. I am rocking 44s and they are fast and strong. Did not have a single issue all year.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:24 amDoes anyone have any up to date thoughts on the V2 Michelin Power Gravel? I'm looking at putting the 700c 47mm on my new gravel wheels
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Yeah, using the 650 x 50mm ones right now on my commuter. They're kinda 7/10 tyres at everything, decent grip off road, roll pretty well and not too bad on the tarmac.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:09 pmThanks mate, unfortunately expensive and hard to source in the UKKubackjeee wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:52 pmDid not use this one, but if u need a wide fast and robust tire I can recommend tufo thundero HD with effetto Mariposa caffelatex sealant. I am rocking 44s and they are fast and strong. Did not have a single issue all year.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:24 amDoes anyone have any up to date thoughts on the V2 Michelin Power Gravel? I'm looking at putting the 700c 47mm on my new gravel wheels
They're not the most supple but the trade off appears that they're quite puncture proof.
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Thanks mate, exactly what I'm after. Fit and forgetCampagYOLO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:35 amYeah, using the 650 x 50mm ones right now on my commuter. They're kinda 7/10 tyres at everything, decent grip off road, roll pretty well and not too bad on the tarmac.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:09 pmThanks mate, unfortunately expensive and hard to source in the UKKubackjeee wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:52 pmDid not use this one, but if u need a wide fast and robust tire I can recommend tufo thundero HD with effetto Mariposa caffelatex sealant. I am rocking 44s and they are fast and strong. Did not have a single issue all year.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:24 amDoes anyone have any up to date thoughts on the V2 Michelin Power Gravel? I'm looking at putting the 700c 47mm on my new gravel wheels
They're not the most supple but the trade off appears that they're quite puncture proof.
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Wanted to share my experiences with Tufo Thundero HD 44mm, I rode the regular non-HD version so I have a direct comparison.
Been riding these for about 4 months but will be taking them off and replacing with Vittoria Mezcals.
They don't feel as supple as the non-HD version which isn't surprising, not had any punctures with them though so they appear to address that issue.
Speed wise this is obviously very subjective and completely un-scientific but they don't feel like a 'fast' tyre.
For me their biggest weakness I've found is grip, which is something I don't remember having issues with the other version. Again, this is obviously subjective and others may have different experiences but I don't feel confident descending on these tyres, I rode the UK gravel nationals at the weekend and over-shot a couple of corners. Of course skill plays a part here but I've ridden that course before (on Mezcals) and don't remember any such issues.
Hope this is helpful.
Been riding these for about 4 months but will be taking them off and replacing with Vittoria Mezcals.
They don't feel as supple as the non-HD version which isn't surprising, not had any punctures with them though so they appear to address that issue.
Speed wise this is obviously very subjective and completely un-scientific but they don't feel like a 'fast' tyre.
For me their biggest weakness I've found is grip, which is something I don't remember having issues with the other version. Again, this is obviously subjective and others may have different experiences but I don't feel confident descending on these tyres, I rode the UK gravel nationals at the weekend and over-shot a couple of corners. Of course skill plays a part here but I've ridden that course before (on Mezcals) and don't remember any such issues.
Hope this is helpful.
Let us know that comparison. Strange the hear that about the HDs not feeling the same.Nohands83 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:37 amWanted to share my experiences with Tufo Thundero HD 44mm, I rode the regular non-HD version so I have a direct comparison.
Been riding these for about 4 months but will be taking them off and replacing with Vittoria Mezcals.
They don't feel as supple as the non-HD version which isn't surprising, not had any punctures with them though so they appear to address that issue.
Speed wise this is obviously very subjective and completely un-scientific but they don't feel like a 'fast' tyre.
For me their biggest weakness I've found is grip, which is something I don't remember having issues with the other version. Again, this is obviously subjective and others may have different experiences but I don't feel confident descending on these tyres, I rode the UK gravel nationals at the weekend and over-shot a couple of corners. Of course skill plays a part here but I've ridden that course before (on Mezcals) and don't remember any such issues.
Hope this is helpful.
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Helpful. Not to help me make a decision, but to confuse me more . I think I've read too much about tyres and now can't make my mind up. Was tempted by the thunderos based on all of the rave reviews, but I'm also in the UK (also did nats) and wonder if most of those reviews are on champagne gravel, not the stuff we deal with in Scotland or similar elsewhere.Nohands83 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:37 amWanted to share my experiences with Tufo Thundero HD 44mm, I rode the regular non-HD version so I have a direct comparison.
Been riding these for about 4 months but will be taking them off and replacing with Vittoria Mezcals.
They don't feel as supple as the non-HD version which isn't surprising, not had any punctures with them though so they appear to address that issue.
Speed wise this is obviously very subjective and completely un-scientific but they don't feel like a 'fast' tyre.
For me their biggest weakness I've found is grip, which is something I don't remember having issues with the other version. Again, this is obviously subjective and others may have different experiences but I don't feel confident descending on these tyres, I rode the UK gravel nationals at the weekend and over-shot a couple of corners. Of course skill plays a part here but I've ridden that course before (on Mezcals) and don't remember any such issues.
Hope this is helpful.
I am on Thundero HD myself (on 44c). Previously was on Pirelli Cinturato H. Thunderos are miles ahead in everything. The only thing they suffer is naturally muddy climbs. But so have Cinturatos as well. I do not even think of any other gravel tyre anymore.
I am riding Thundero 44's, and they're great for Melbourne gravel tracks and unsealed roads. We dont see sharp rocks around here to have had an issue with punctures.
I have also tried the Thundero 48 HD, which would be my choice in more rocky terrains.
I have also tried the Thundero 48 HD, which would be my choice in more rocky terrains.
Any experience or data on the Kenda Alluvion?
Sorry! Not sure TBH, I expected to like them more than I do, they're not a bad tyre, but for me the perceived lack of grip combined with the higher rolling resistance doesn't seem like a good compromise. I'm happy to take less grip on a Terra speed because they're bloody fast. Likewise, the awesome grip the Mezcals offer is worth the trade-off in RR.
Helpful. Not to help me make a decision, but to confuse me more . I think I've read too much about tyres and now can't make my mind up. Was tempted by the thunderos based on all of the rave reviews, but I'm also in the UK (also did nats) and wonder if most of those reviews are on champagne gravel, not the stuff we deal with in Scotland or similar elsewhere.
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Helpful. Not to help me make a decision, but to confuse me more . I think I've read too much about tyres and now can't make my mind up. Was tempted by the thunderos based on all of the rave reviews, but I'm also in the UK (also did nats) and wonder if most of those reviews are on champagne gravel, not the stuff we deal with in Scotland or similar elsewhere.
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I've been on Thundero 40's for a while. They've been excellent. Doing a little more single track, roots, rocks, etc. so put a 44mm on the front. Big step up in control for a mere 4mm.
For those worried about punctures, you have to give them a try. I suspect my terrain is devoid of anything that could hurt them. The only issue was a pinhole puncture on the rear that the sealant took care of - we have some scary thorns in this part of the world. I only noticed when removed and cleaned the tire of dried sealant for intallation on new wheels. The Orange seal had built an nice inner wall of latex - a surprisingly uniform coating that kept the tire airtight.
For those worried about punctures, you have to give them a try. I suspect my terrain is devoid of anything that could hurt them. The only issue was a pinhole puncture on the rear that the sealant took care of - we have some scary thorns in this part of the world. I only noticed when removed and cleaned the tire of dried sealant for intallation on new wheels. The Orange seal had built an nice inner wall of latex - a surprisingly uniform coating that kept the tire airtight.
It's been a while so you've probably made your move, but I installed these on Mrs Gib's gravel rig and they excellent in terms of ease of installation and maintenance (lack thereof). She also reports superior traction. Respectable rolling resistance according to BRR. I think the Power Gravel is an excellent option for broad range of terrain and surface types, and great value.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:24 amDoes anyone have any up to date thoughts on the V2 Michelin Power Gravel? I'm looking at putting the 700c 47mm on my new gravel wheels
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Latest post on BRR sums it up pretty well for me for the Gateway 44 vs Thundero 44 debate. Rolling resistance is too close to make a difference
Gateway:
Better puncture protection on the main thread
A good chunk heavier
Fragile sidewalls
More supple feel
Thundero:
Lighter
Significantly More protected sidewall
More fragile Thread (but not a dealbreaker?)
Can't have it all, and there is no clear winner for me
Gateway:
Better puncture protection on the main thread
A good chunk heavier
Fragile sidewalls
More supple feel
Thundero:
Lighter
Significantly More protected sidewall
More fragile Thread (but not a dealbreaker?)
Can't have it all, and there is no clear winner for me
Great summary and thanks for highlighting! Wet grip might be the deciding factor for anyone who has to deal with weather - Thundero is one of the better options out there even if the Getaway wasn't abysmal.Yoln wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:05 pmLatest post on BRR sums it up pretty well for me for the Gateway 44 vs Thundero 44 debate. Rolling resistance is too close to make a difference
Gateway:
Better puncture protection on the main thread
A good chunk heavier
Fragile sidewalls
More supple feel
Thundero:
Lighter
Significantly More protected sidewall
More fragile Thread (but not a dealbreaker?)
Can't have it all, and there is no clear winner for me
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Thanks mate. Went Pirelli M in 45 but will probably try the Power Gravel if I don't get on with themMr.Gib wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:25 amIt's been a while so you've probably made your move, but I installed these on Mrs Gib's gravel rig and they excellent in terms of ease of installation and maintenance (lack thereof). She also reports superior traction. Respectable rolling resistance according to BRR. I think the Power Gravel is an excellent option for broad range of terrain and surface types, and great value.CustomMetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:24 amDoes anyone have any up to date thoughts on the V2 Michelin Power Gravel? I'm looking at putting the 700c 47mm on my new gravel wheels
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