Gravel tire rolling resistance tested

[Agent041]

https://enve.com/collections/gravel-tires

Was this just announced today or am I late to the party? Based on how the road tires tested on BRR this should be a fun one to keep an eye on…


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Isn´t Tufo making road tyres for Enve?
And these are in 40c and 44c. So exactly as Tufo also makes.

[voicycle]

Yes. But their original SES road tire was unremarkable until they released the 'Raceday' version earlier this year - it has the edge on a conti GP5000S TR in every metric (faster, lighter, grippier, and more puncture resistant), which isn't the case for any of the Tufo branded road offerings either even though the recent ones all test pretty well.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... ve-raceday
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... ve-raceday

The Raceday tech ENVE touted at launch was the same "nano-particle-enhanced rubber compound" that's being advertised with these gravel tires, so all signs point to this being effectively a 'Black Chili'-ed Thundero. I see the 40 is already up on the list with two votes behind it at time of writing...

[voicycle]

Oh - plus we also know that ENVE aero-test their tires. That's an emerging marginal gain in road tires, but as we saw from Dylan/Silca's last wind tunnel video, it can be a bit more significant when it comes to knobbled tread patterns. I see features on this tread pattern that I recognize from a number of other brands' existing offerings, so I'd guess even if ENVE/Tufo didn't go as far as molding and testing prototypes they at least factored in aero data on exsiting tread patterns when desigining their own.

[CampagYOLO]

Oh - plus we also know that ENVE aero-test their tires. That's an emerging marginal gain in road tires, but as we saw from Dylan/Silca's last wind tunnel video, it can be a bit more significant when it comes to knobbled tread patterns. I see features on this tread pattern that I recognize from a number of other brands' existing offerings, so I'd guess even if ENVE/Tufo didn't go as far as molding and testing prototypes they at least factored in aero data on exsiting tread patterns when desigining their own.

It's been a long time since Enve released new gravel wheels and all their current gravel wheels are shallow. You could use some of their road wheels which have 25mm internal rim width but they're optimised for road tyres.

It really wouldn't surprise me if Enve release some super wide and deep aero gravel wheels soon and that these tyres will have been optimised for them. Just like what Zipp did with Goodyear recently with the XPLR wheels.

[Yoln]

Yes. But their original SES road tire was unremarkable until they released the 'Raceday' version earlier this year - it has the edge on a conti GP5000S TR in every metric (faster, lighter, grippier, and more puncture resistant), which isn't the case for any of the Tufo branded road offerings either even though the recent ones all test pretty well.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... ve-raceday
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... ve-raceday

The Raceday tech ENVE touted at launch was the same "nano-particle-enhanced rubber compound" that's being advertised with these gravel tires, so all signs point to this being effectively a 'Black Chili'-ed Thundero. I see the 40 is already up on the list with two votes behind it at time of writing...

Already used my vote on the Agilest Fast for this month, but will do next month

[DouglasDDX]

Any good suggestions for a good winter tire in a bigger size. I loved the tufo swampero (44mm) last winter but I want to try something bigger this time. 47-50mm.
Used Pirelli M (didn't like it at all) and Maxxis Rambler the winters before. Rambler had better grip than expected but felt quite slow when putting down the power.

[emotive]

I tried the RaceKing 2.0” which was OK but heavy. Switched to a Thundero 48 HD which feels faster.

[CustomMetal]

Any good suggestions for a good winter tire in a bigger size. I loved the tufo swampero (44mm) last winter but I want to try something bigger this time. 47-50mm.
Used Pirelli M (didn't like it at all) and Maxxis Rambler the winters before. Rambler had better grip than expected but felt quite slow when putting down the power.

What didn't you like about the Pirelli?

[DouglasDDX]

Any good suggestions for a good winter tire in a bigger size. I loved the tufo swampero (44mm) last winter but I want to try something bigger this time. 47-50mm.
Used Pirelli M (didn't like it at all) and Maxxis Rambler the winters before. Rambler had better grip than expected but felt quite slow when putting down the power.

What didn't you like about the Pirelli?

Imo it was a very harsh ride and could not fixt it with lower tire pressure (45mm). With the slick center it rolls good on tarmac but lacks traction in wet winter conditions. The extreme side grip that many talk about, I didn't get. I had not much confidence with this tire.

[CustomMetal]

Interesting. I'm trying this next season after all the glowing reviews. If it turns out like yours I'm changing to the Michelin Power Gravel

[fizzaz]

Any good suggestions for a good winter tire in a bigger size. I loved the tufo swampero (44mm) last winter but I want to try something bigger this time. 47-50mm.
Used Pirelli M (didn't like it at all) and Maxxis Rambler the winters before. Rambler had better grip than expected but felt quite slow when putting down the power.

What didn't you like about the Pirelli?

Imo it was a very harsh ride and could not fixt it with lower tire pressure (45mm). With the slick center it rolls good on tarmac but lacks traction in wet winter conditions. The extreme side grip that many talk about, I didn't get. I had not much confidence with this tire.

Had the same experience. No matter what pressure I ran, they just didn't get more comfortable. Only slower.

[MrRolandos]

Hmm so its getting more rainy and muddy here, so I need more grip. Currently riding 42mm pathfinders. Love them, very fast and agile. But in the mud, kinda useless.

Love Pirelli and Continental. I have Pirelli Scorpion XC RC on my mtb and love it. Was thinking about the pirelli but now im not sure. What do you guys recommened for 45-47mm? Need grip for muddy sand roads

[London9921]

Any good suggestions for a good winter tire in a bigger size. I loved the tufo swampero (44mm) last winter but I want to try something bigger this time. 47-50mm.
Used Pirelli M (didn't like it at all) and Maxxis Rambler the winters before. Rambler had better grip than expected but felt quite slow when putting down the power.

I love the ramblers! The only other I can think of would be the Pathfinder Pro which is fast but you'll have to be careful if it gets freezing cold wherever you live, then the centre tread might feel sketchy. I've ridden the 38s which were fast but do prefer the ramblers (45).

[CampagYOLO]

Hmm so its getting more rainy and muddy here, so I need more grip. Currently riding 42mm pathfinders. Love them, very fast and agile. But in the mud, kinda useless.

Love Pirelli and Continental. I have Pirelli Scorpion XC RC on my mtb and love it. Was thinking about the pirelli but now im not sure. What do you guys recommened for 45-47mm? Need grip for muddy sand roads

That's the downside of semi slicks with a slick centre tread, any sign of mud and they become useless. Being UK based with our wet weather and risk of mud all year round, I much prefer tyres with tread all over.

I'd recommend the Vittoria Mezcals in 44mm, good grip even with shallow mud and still feel quite fast. Only in deeper mud do they struggle but that's when you'd want a mud specific tyre.

[Bricardo]

Happy with my Tufo Swamperos, there’s always a bit of mud somewhere this time of year.