Tire options for gravel riding

Especially for light weight issues concerning cyclocross / touring bikes & parts.

Moderator: Moderator Team

User avatar
WinterRider
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:46 pm

by WinterRider

Marin wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:22 pm
That's not a Gravelking in the Heine pic.

Roadside reinflation with a hand pump is a fantasy IMO, if the tire deflates you put a tube in.
Yes is not GK.. but same maker.. same tire essentially. Just a slightly different 'wrapper'.

If I had to carry tubes I would not bother tubeless. Bonafide tubeless tires will reseat/reinflate roadside .. the Gravel Dog will not after seeing some use.

bm0p700f
in the industry
Posts: 4107
Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 7:25 pm
Location: Glermsford, Suffolk U.K
Contact:

by bm0p700f

I have had tubeless flat with a road tyre and lost all air then plugged well enough to get 30 psi to get me home. It's not a fantasy if the tyre remain seated.

IRC broken is the latest gravel tyre. They are properly tubeless too.

by Weenie


ooo
Posts: 629
Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 12:59 pm

by ooo

stoney wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:08 am
I love Maxxis Ramblers 40mm on my 21 inner width MTB rims.
What is their actual width on 21mm rims? SilkShield or EXO model?
'

Marin
Posts: 3066
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:48 am
Location: Vienna Austria

by Marin

bm0p700f wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:46 pm
I have had tubeless flat with a road tyre and lost all air then plugged well enough to get 30 psi to get me home. It's not a fantasy if the tyre remain seated.
Sure, if the tire remains seated it's not a problem. But I thought WinterRider was taking it off to patch it or something - then you're lost.

bm0p700f
in the industry
Posts: 4107
Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 7:25 pm
Location: Glermsford, Suffolk U.K
Contact:

by bm0p700f

His complaint was the tyre had flexible sidewalls. Never used that tyre do j am not sure what his issue is but I think it's tyre bead stretch so when it's flat it unseats. The kinlin rim with IRC tyres for example are well seated and the rim prevents unseating so you can ride the tyre flat and it still won't come off. But even these tyres stretch a big meaning if you remove it and refit, more tape might be needed. Hense I repair a tubeless tyre externally unless I really can't.

stoney
Posts: 190
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:26 am

by stoney

ooo wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 pm
stoney wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:08 am
I love Maxxis Ramblers 40mm on my 21 inner width MTB rims.
What is their actual width on 21mm rims? SilkShield or EXO model?
They're the EXO 120 TPI model. I don't have calipers so I don't know the actual width on the rims, sorry.

User avatar
WinterRider
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:46 pm

by WinterRider

bm0p700f wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:02 pm
His complaint was the tyre had flexible sidewalls. Never used that tyre do j am not sure what his issue is but I think it's tyre bead stretch so when it's flat it unseats. The kinlin rim with IRC tyres for example are well seated and the rim prevents unseating so you can ride the tyre flat and it still won't come off. But even these tyres stretch a big meaning if you remove it and refit, more tape might be needed. Hense I repair a tubeless tyre externally unless I really can't.
More tape w the Kinlin 22T + Gravel dog won't work. Sidewall stretch makes the tire useless for roadside reinflation on tubeless rims w UST standard dimensions. Hence I believe the 'Dog' is being marketed tubeless is in error.

I did get a good fit w the 'Dog' on NON tubeless rims.. Kinlin 200's. Tight w the tape.. reinflation is iffy.. CO2 the best route. I do not run this combination.. the Continental wire bead NON 32mm tubeless running tubeless outperforms the 32mm Dog by miles.

ooo
Posts: 629
Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 12:59 pm

by ooo

@WinterRider, do you ride any "summer" gravel tires in winter?
'

User avatar
WinterRider
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:46 pm

by WinterRider

ooo wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:30 pm
@WinterRider, do you ride any "summer" gravel tires in winter?
Winter occurs on the calendar in southern locations. I winter Tx... yet actually the tread pattern would be decent if I remained north. I only ride dry clean rds winter north.

The Gravel Dog is a tubed tire.. plain and simple. Tube-ass it aint worth a d*m.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post