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They probably claim a % rate of flex in some sales propaganda.
But if you ride hard, how are you sure the fork doesn't brake.
That is, if it basically is a stiff fork!
THM did an interesting prototype with lamella construction.
Canyon had a concept road (race) bike with suspension both front and rear.
I still think it's strange we see bikes like Pinarello S-models, the new Wilier NDR and others with a rear suspension of some sort.
But virtually no gravel bikes.
Excerpt is True Grit bike with the Grit fork
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
It's all marketing gimmicks.
Have fun riding offroad with 2mm fender clearance
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A larger tire run at a lower pressure does magnitudes more for comfort (without screwing up handling) than any frame/fork/stem/seatpost/handlebar gimmick, and they are relatively cheap.
It's there: Grail AL https://www.canyon.com/en/road/grail/#filter1=AL
Prices seem very reasonable.
Prices seem very reasonable.
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I've been waiting for the Grail AL to come out, but after seeing it (and knowing it'll take a while longer before it becomes available in the States), I think I'll go with a Topstone instead.
Rare I pop into this forum, but saw the Grail AL yesterday and am considering them for the missus and I as all rounder bikes. We don't really have much by way of gravel paths in the UK, so really want something that I can adapt from road winter training to cross basically. I'd be looking to stick some cheapo power meter on mine and use it for ultras or multi-day stuff myself too. Too slow for that?
What sort of limitations would I be facing. The price and style/colours makes it a very tempting proposition, but without experience in anything aside from road cycling I'm weary to jump in.
What sort of limitations would I be facing. The price and style/colours makes it a very tempting proposition, but without experience in anything aside from road cycling I'm weary to jump in.
In my view, a bike is to the largest extent defined by rider position, tires and gearing. If you can adapt these three to your needs, you won't have any serious limitations.
Weight - 1kg will cost you about 1.3 seconds on an 8% climb with 100m of elevation gain, and it will cost you nothing on the flat.
I ride an "allroad" bike for basically everything now, from team time trials to MTB-route rides, I just swap wheels from 700x24mm to 650bx42 - and a few sizes in between just for fun
It makes a lot of sense when you lay it out like that. I've also toyed with the idea of ditching the carbon road bike and just getting a posh all round bike to do it all. Flirted with the Open Up and Curve which I both have a thing for.
Just finished my first TT build, so maybe TT bike and all round bike would be perfect. TT for raw speed and all rounder for everything else.
Need to think it through...
Just finished my first TT build, so maybe TT bike and all round bike would be perfect. TT for raw speed and all rounder for everything else.
Need to think it through...
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I'm just entering into the world of gravel grinding and I am intrigued by the Canyon Grail. I want the option to put an aerobar on for longer events or for touring. With the front end on the Grail, I can't see a way to mount an aerobar.
Is there a way?
Is there a way?