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But I would like one set of premium wheels mounted with the tyres I like for most conditions (new FMB SSC Slalom)
My immediate thought was just to go with a set of the new Zipp 303 Disc tubs but I think a set of the Enve 29er XC tubulars could be worth a look. I also have experience of the AX lightness 29er tub rims having used them in XC racing a year back and they were great too so I have a few to choose from!
Am I missing any, and what suggestions does anyone have?
I agree on the farsports wheels though and honestly cant say anything bad about them, especially for the cost. They are strong, light and durable so what more can you say. I've had no bearing issues on the novatec hubs but to be honest I haven't had so many gnarly races that needed the powerwash and that's the acid test!
stephenjames wrote:I've had no bearing issues on the Novatec hubs but to be honest I haven't had so many gnarly races that needed the powerwash and that's the acid test!
That is probably the difference. I got the Farsport wheels at the start of the 2012 season and even with 2 race bikes, lead off the first 3-weeks enjoying wet/rain/mud (Masters 45+ @ USGP Madison, Gloucester, and Providence) after which the bearings in all of the Novatech rear wheels were toast. Got my hands on 2 sets of the Enve tubulars by week 6 which were setup with FMB's for dry conditions and the Farsports got FMB mud tires for inclement weather all the way through worlds.
The only issue is the rim bed is quite flat to handle mtb tubulars. You have to be very careful with the glue job to get the edges of the basetape to stick well.
I envisage the Enve XC wheels being similar.
I still wouldn't opt for the Zipp wheels though as I'm not convinced the hubs are up to the task.
Sorry I don't have a perfect solution apart from a custom build.
Maybe one day I'll fall in love with one of those wheel sets and will buy it, but considering what I've experiencing with Chinese wheels I'm very far from doing so
vcnz wrote:according to my experience with Chinese wheels in 3 years, ZIPP, Enve etc. look like a total waste of money to my eyes.
When I purchased the Enve Twenty9 XC tubular wheelsets, which are a tad under 26mm wide, none of the far east vendors were offering anything over 20-21 mm wide so to go wider for cross, I really did not have much choice but was able to get below retail pricing. These days, I would have to agree that Zipp, Reynolds, Enve pricing would preclude those choices but aside from Xiamen iPLays 30mm deep/30mm wide MTB tubular rims, I have yet to see far east vendors offering similar intermediate depth tubular rims (30mm-45mm), wider, disc specific tubulars that are as light as the Enve rims. Sort of topic drift, but imagine a 'price is not a concern' wheelset based on the Enve rims built with Extralite's disc hubs - that would yield a near 1000 gram disc brake wheelset but would probably cost US $3500!
front with 15mm Thru axle
better than top brands products , almost 10000 km done since 1st january
ms6073 wrote:vcnz wrote: I have yet to see far east vendors offering similar intermediate depth tubular rims (30mm-45mm), wider, disc specific tubulars that are as light as the Enve rims.
This is as wide (27mm) as you'd ever need for a 33mm cyclocross tubular. In fact going wider could prove problematic with base tape adhesion.
http://www.light-bicycle.com/tubular-mt ... Dn30xa8Pwk
The Zipp 303 disc are just regular 303 rims. IMO too heavy for the money, with less robust hubs.
already on my hands a pair of preproduction, in few weeks ready a large quantity of pairs.
not yet on their web site.
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