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Simon won a race in Butzberg (Switzerland) 27/11/05, I don't know or he ride on the Leightweights yet.

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1 Simon ZAHNER
2 Michael BAUMGARTNER
3 Yves CORMINBOEUF
4 Lukas FLÜCKIGER
5 Pascal MEYER
6 Matthias FLUCKIGER
7 Sven DUMUSC
8 Ralph NAF
9 Pirmin LANG
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Well, congratulations then Simon! :D I guess I should pay better attention :lol: , did you use the LW's for that win?

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i had the wheels in buetzberg on my second bike, but it was frozen, so i rode the michelin-dugast that are on the neutrons. i had 40 seconds to the second placed rider, but didn't want to change the bike just to ride through the finish with lw, would have been extra work for the mecanics...
goes to the topic "wins with lightweight on spare bike".
in the pic with the 3 bikes the one left is my first bike, then the one right is on the trainer to warm up, this is the second bike, also with single chainring, and the one with 39-46 is the third bike. in wetzikon it was very muddy, so i used michelin-threads on the main bikes.
the third bike was kind of the publicity bike at this race :D unfortunately i didn't make any publicity with my race...
in the red mavic wheel bags is the second pair of lw...

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simon wrote:in the red mavic wheel bags is the second pair of lw...


:shock: that's cool 8)

Fantastic bikes - what do they weight??

BTW - nice win!!!

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thank you, mads, i also like the bikes very much...
i don't know an exact weight. the single chainring one with campa record, lw with full titan cassette was 6,7 kg, dura ace levers and cassette adds like 130 grams, shifting cable is shimano, not nokon anymore, so also a bit heavier. the 54 cm frame is 35 grams lighter, but i need more spacers, so in total i think the bikes got 200 grams heavier each. i'm going to a fishing shop to buy a scale, then i know more.
btw, i had a naked supercross frame, weight was equal to x-night, but on the supercross was more paint, so i think that supercross without any paint is a bit lighter than x-night.

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please write the weights of the frames
dont forget the size,and where you measured the size
(center-center,or center -top)
thank you
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x-night 56 cm cc is 1450 grams with saddle clamp
x-night 54 cm cc is 1420 grams, another is 1425 grams, also with saddle clamp
thw supercross 56 cm cc is 1450 grams, with saddle clamp
the x-nights are my frames, so the colour is most carbon with clear coat, a little red and silver. the supercross is the serial red-white colour, so the paint may be heavier than on the x-nights.
fork uncut, just stickers and clearcoat is 396 grams.

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396 gramm ??
uncut ?
how long is the steerer ?
is it a python ?
last year they had 100 gramms more
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by Müsing

Hi Simon,
great bikes you got. These LW are really awesome with your bike. Why did you change from Campa to ShimaNo?

I have a question for you. What is so special with the Heule-Pads? I do not quite unterstand that.

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simon:you can adjust the pad in every direction, as the new shimano road brakes.
the best of this parts is that they're lighter than a cool stop eagle claw.

adjustable is th main key!!!!!

if your cantibolts are bend you still can adjust the pad to the rim
or if they make noise ,you can do the toe in


and they are light
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yes weight is for python forks. you see in the other thread the ridley with mcewen painting, the fork is a bit over 400 grams, that's because it is coloured. weight is for uncut 300 mm.
about the pads:i expected the pad holders to be heavier, but i thought this part has a lot of advantages(adjustability, ability to ride different brake pads on different rims, fast changing of pads)and it would have been no big problem for me if they added 50 grams or so at every bike. but then i put them on the scale and was very surprised they were even lighter.

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to müsing
i changed to shimano because i had more and more problems with campa, such as shifting mistakes(shifting down 3 or 4 gears instead of 1 because of bumpy terrain), couldn't hold on the levers on tecnical downhills without braking with full power(otherwise the levers slipped out of my hands). it started to make me angry during the races, so i thought it is idiot to change mid season, but it is also idiot to think about it half the time at every race, so i changed...
what's special about the pads: cyclocross brakes need old cantilever brakepads because of the bolts. these pads are rarely made, and have no good shape for thin road rims and also no good rubber mix for carbon rims. with the heule pads you can use every road pad for super braking power. and you can adjust them like you want and don't have to bend the brake, always hoping that you don't destroy something.

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by Müsing

I unterstud that with the breakpads but why spent 100 franc if you could get them for 25 euro or cheaper?

http://www.bike-components.de/catalog/i ... /12427.jpg

btw. what breakpads would you recomend for protons?

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the pads for € 25 ,- are not adjustable
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Simon, what saddles are on your bikes? Are they Carbon SLRs or just SLRs with the covers ripped off?

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