IMO nothing beats Boras hubs. I own 240 hubs and while good they are IMO not as good. I have had great luck with my Boras but dang those new Enve wheels look good. Anyone that's used both out there?
- Incredible at speed. Feel like 808 firecrest.
- Don't feel super nimble or light when climbing. Rims are a bit heavier, so that's understandable. 404's feel more nimble.
- Sensation in crosswinds is very odd, in a good way. Like a consistent tug with a rubber band, which is serving to remove all of the sharp inputs. As good as Firecrest but in a different way - crosswinds seem to grab Zipp's a bit less, but grab the Enve's more consistently. I thought it might just be in my head so I rode them back to back today, and the difference is there.
(good pics to go up soon, weather tooooo good here to not be riding!!)
the only thing I can say is I thought they would be slightly stiffer laterally, as you have to have the rear brake off a little more than my Easton EC90 58mm rear... brakes dont touch if they are set 5mm off the rim.... so there is a little deflection!!
they roll so well, and rip it in a sprint tho!!
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williamsf1 wrote:ok what are other people's verdict on stiffness???
I seem to have to have the brakes open on the rear especially.... maybe 6-8mm each side??? to stop it touching under heavy load, climbing/sprinting???
Im 73kg, so not a fatty
What hub/spoke/spoke count?
Built really nicely I might add!!! just was kind of expecting less side to side flex.... seems very stiff in the drive direction, just wanted to know what other people have reported who own them, and use them....
they are bloody fast! and amazing in the wind!!!!
I'm not gonna say they are super stiff, because I just can't tell, but I can't feel any flex and never had any brake rub.
70kg right now, btw.
For what it's worth, there's a local descend with an especially winding section and there's usually at least one turn I don't nail 100%, and I came out perfect twice in a row with those wheels. Not that it really means much and I'm not gonna say it's the wheels, but at least they are not holding me back.
If I set my brakepads just a little wider than normal I have no problems.
A hub with better geometries will be better to prevent the stiff rims to rotate around the hub. Rumors says ENVE are coming with their own hubset with optimized geomtry to their rims.
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