New electronic Dura-Ace Di2

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Annorlunda
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by Annorlunda

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New electronic Dura-Ace Di2 can be seen here Happymtb.org

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Package looks good except the FD with the large part lines and exposed bolt holes. Surely they could have done a better job with snap fits and screws hidden against the seat tube. Ugly large too.

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Only 70gr more than 7900 with 60 being the battery. Impressive. I'm guessing it's the right lever that's being shown? I remember the LCD readout on some of the prototypes so they must have ditched that idea. Also, with any excess cabling having to be shoved into the down tube I think wiring up a small frame should be somewhat fun.
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Are these hoods the same size and shape as 7900? Only a single shifting location (no auxiliary shift locations)?

Just make a smaller damn hood which better fits my small hand - no bigger than Record 10, and preferably smaller around, and we'd be in business, baby.

Edit: Per Shimano web site, there is an optional satellite shifter SW-7971 which can be placed anywhere on the handlebar. I have not seen a picture, don't know the weight/size/shape or shifting "ergonomics" of it. Is this only for rear shifting?
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impressive weight. i like the stealth looks. revolution begins feb.

does anyone know when/$$ OEM bikes will ship. the 2009 giant/specialized/cannondale catalogs have zero spec on eda.

i expect $1000 premium for eda of 7900.

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jfleischmann wrote:http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/news/2008/07/shimano


:o


WIRED wrote:Image Stefan Schumacher of Germany speeds down Ombarde Pass using Shimano's Di2 electronic shifting system during the 2008 Tour De France.
Photo: Christophe Ena/AP


However, THAT looks like mech D-A...

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Just had the pricing for the groupset - looking at more than £2000 all in.

Shifters @ £350
R.Mech @ £350
F.Mech @ £250....

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press release:

DURA-ACE meets Di2 technology: Instantly changing gears and minds

Leading in innovation and design, Shimano introduces the highly anticipated electronic road components DURA-ACE with Di2 technology. Coming to market as an addition to the new mechanical DURA-ACE 7900 series, the electronic DURA-ACE 7970 will deliver state-of-the-art technology that will give its users a revolutionary road riding experience. Di2 stands for ‚ÄúDigital Integrated Intelligence‚ÄĚ.

This innovative shift technology is still based on the Shimano Index System (SIS) that has proved its superior gear changing characteristics over the years. The big difference is that in this case, the shifting action is provided for by electronics instead of mechanics.

This electronic shifting system was tested extensively over de past two years by several professional riders in all conditions possible, such as rain, mud, low temperatures, cobble stone roads and combinations of all of these at the same time...

DURA-ACE 7970 series consists of Dual Control Levers, electronically operated front and rear derailleurs and a battery kit. For the other components, like crankset and brakes, one can rely on the products taken from the new mechanical DURA-ACE 7900 group.

Dual Control Levers
Shifting is executed by simply pressing the button. No power is needed anymore to shift, which gives important advantages since it is easier now to always keep a tight grip on the handlebar and to keep your concentration on riding instead on shifting. The shift system allows accurate and effortless shifting in difficult circumstances like cold hands or when you are completely exhausted. Furthermore, the shifting performance will never be affected by contaminated or stretched cables since the shifting signal is transferred electronically.
The operating buttons work similar to mechanical Dual Control Levers so you don’t need to re-program your mind for a new system. The ergonomic bracket shape provides a greater degree of ergonomics and control for a variety of riders. An optional satellite switch allows shifting from multiple positions on the handlebar.

The Dual Control Levers have been provided with a reach adjustment mechanism which is an ideal feature for people with smaller hands. Furthermore, they are compatible with the new FlightDeck computer SC-7900 that measures data such as heart rate, altitude, cadence, gear position, a battery indicator and much more. FlightDeck works with coded wireless signals that prevent interference from other electronic units. The new FlightDeck can be used to make a wireless connection with a PC to analyze riding data (software is included), with reserving a potential for functional upgrades through the PC.

Derailleurs
The most remarkable difference you will notice is shifting the front derailleur. Just pushing the button will shift the front derailleur completely effortless and smooth, even under high load. An additional feature, much appeciated by our test riders, is the automatic trim function. The chain guide moves automatically in response to the setting of the rear derailleur.

Also the rear derailleur offers remarkable quick and smooth shifts. It has a wide gear ratio (11-27T compatible) and the electronics are well protected from heavy impacts such as crashes. The rear derailleur features a carbon pulley plate and titanium B axle for increased weight savings.

Battery
DURA--ACE Di2 uses a long-life 7.4V Li-Ion battery that is compact and powerful. Excellent reliability and a long lifetime have been proved through repeated field tests in various riding conditions over the last two years. The battery is very easy to mount and remove for charging and it fits any kind of road bike.
The shifting system is not wireless since that would need additional power (= a heavier battery) and it would also be less reliable than the technology that Shimano has chosen for.

Time Trial/Triathlon
DURA-ACE with Di2 technology contributes to Time Trial and Triathlon riding by its multi position shifters. It allows riders to shift while braking, by enjoying an effortless operation even when riding in the aerodynamic position.

Additional to the regular package, a Dual Control Lever ST-7971 with electronic shift buttons for time trial and triathlon usage is introduced. The carbon brake lever has been developed with a reach adjustment mechanism to fit all hand sizes. This Dual Control Lever is compatible with the new FlightDeck computer SC-7900.
Finally, also an electronic satellite switch SW-7971 will be available that can be integrated into time trial handlebar extensions. The shift wires can be guided through the bars for optimal aerodynamics.

Digital Integrated Intelligence means a revolution in bicycle technology, changing the road racing scene for ever.

Availability in the market: January 2009


high resolution pics - http://www.light-bikes.de/website/new/2008/08/01/shimano-dura-ace-di2
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Steponas
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I`ll probably get the levers and mechs , do you think the front mech will work on the 7800 chainset ?

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shimano site is updated.


http://www.dura-ace.com/start.htm

click on products to access di2 product line....very sweet

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Looks nicer than expected!
The question is: how are you supposed to install cables? Zip ties everywhere?
And what about the cable guides on the frame? (dremel? :twisted: )

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Im calling it now: Battery weenies. Someone will put in a lower capacity battery cell to tune the weight below mechanical dura ace.

Does does electric dura-ace use dura-cell batteries? :)

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Four different wiring harnesses; one for internal, and three different sizes for external. And yes, comes with cable guides.

Edit: Thanks for the first laugh of the morning!

Does does electric dura-ace use dura-cell batteries?
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Won't be hard, looks like those are two standard li ion batteries, which means that removing one could be possible.
Of course, the real potential of electronic groups is third party products, but they have to sell a ton of groups first.

I have already seen a prototype jersey with 4W solar cells on the back to charge via USB, they are just working on making the panel breathe better.

This likely means the Campy announcement is imminent.
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