New Ultimate ISIS Scandium BB

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Superlite
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by Superlite

Hello,

Does anyone here have this BB on there bike? Hows it holding up? Any good? It's between this and the AC ISIS BB for my new bike.

Also, if you are there New Ultimate, can we order this product direct from you? Also, do you have pricing all all of your items? Where are you located at and are there any US dealers? I am very interest in all of your products for my new bike I am building.

Thank you.

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cadence90
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by cadence90

Spada Scandium. Triple bearings, 118g, 108 or 113.
I have it and it's working great.
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by mises

Any idea what the recommended torque is for the spada BB cups?

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jer
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by jer

I haven't had great luck with the AC BB. First one went south after about 200 miles of xc riding (some of it pretty wet.) I called them and they sent me new bearings but now this one doesn't spin very freely. It was fine when I installed it but less than 500 mi. later I only get one complete revolution when i spin the cranks w/o the chain on them. Cups and crank arms were installed with a torque wrench too. No play or creaking yet, though. This BB is more sensitive than most tohow well your shell is faced.

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is their a weight limit on the spada Scandium BB? i would feel safer with a steel spindle.

or should we just wait for this...
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jer
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by jer

That Spada is the same as the zerolite, no? Ye Old Bald One seems to like his. Check: http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... light=isis I talked to Big Mike @ Zerolite in may or june and he was selling these for $150 I think. At the time he was out of stock, though.

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Delpi
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by Delpi

There is another company that produces (?) this BB
The name is Token
http://www.tokenproducts.com/
The price is only 84 Euro (www.shockbike.com)
The real weight is 122g (108mm)
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spytech
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so is there a weight limit?

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cadence90
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by cadence90

The Spada, New Ultimate, Token, and others all probably use same/similar parts, but I believe the bearing specs are different (triple bearing on the Spada). The Spada was going to be distributed by Zerolite, but I don't know if that's happening still.

These cost $150 from Spada-USA. There is also a ti version available, 165g. The actual weight on my Scandium is 118g.

The torque setting on the bolts is 43-48 Nm (32-35 ft-lb).
The weight limit on the Spada Scandium BB is 230 lb.
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by bobalou

I've got an AC ISIS and it's been great so far. I have over 1500 miles on it. Have ridden with it in an all-day rain on a century, and have ridden in other rain storms also. I got some creaking from it about 200 miles after that century .. just took the BB out, greased it up, put it back in. Fixed the creaking, so it wasn't the bearings and I think entirely normal. It's quiet, stiff and smooth and the cranks spin freely w/o the chain on.

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by Villadsen

A bit off topic, but: Is it really possible to make an aluminium ISO axle for a BB that will last. I always thought that alu would snap.
From the Token homepage:
CNC machined hollow Scandium axle
Alloy body,alloy cold forged cups
3pcs high rolling sealed bearings
102mm ISO square for Double
111mm ISO square for Triple & Compact
*68xBSA1.37"x24T, R/L cups
*70xBSC/Ita.36mmx24T, R/R cups
Chainline:
43.5mm/Double
46mm/Triple & Compact
Weight:
145g (102mm,w/o bolts)
155g (111mm,w/o bolts)

And if so, isn't it strange that this thing isn't lighter than 145g. That is the same as a Ti version from AC or TA?
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by cyclist101

Here is a US company selling the Token bottom bracket. Only $78.99.
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cadence90
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by cadence90

mises wrote:Any idea what the recommended torque is for the spada BB cups?

Spada BB:
Scandium spindle: 118g. $150 from Spada-USA.
Titanium spindle: 165g. $150 from Spada-USA.
Weight Limit: Scandium: 230 lb.

Torque settings:
Crank bolts: 43-48 Nm (32-35 ft-lb).
Cups: 40 Nm for the RH cup, 20 Nm for the LH cup (fitted after RH cup is torqued).
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Superlite
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by Superlite

Got a link to Spada Usa? Thanks

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by cadence90

There is no specific website for Spada-USA.
The Spada website is http://www.spadabike.com/ but it is sorely in need of updating.

In the USA, I suggest you contact Mark at:
Spada-USA@earthlink.net for current products, prices and super wheels.
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