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Cervélo R3 made in same factory as Scott Addict?

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:48 pm
by Danton
Just seen something to suggest that the R3 is made in the same factory as the Scott Addict. I can post the photo soon, not sure if this is a "secret", maybe you all know already? After all, many frames and components are made in Taiwan by specialist composites companies for the major bike brands.

Cervélo R3 made in same factory as Scott Addict?

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:48 pm
by Weenie

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:00 pm
by RTW
You'd think that the finish on the Cervelo would be better than it is then!

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:42 pm
by 2 wheels
Most bikes that claimes to be "made in Taiwan" are actually made in China.
Most Taiwanese composite factories has moved their production facilites to China because the salary and costs are much lower than in Taiwan.
After the production they ship then to their main office in Taiwan where they are allowed to put a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on if they pay 3% Taiwanses tax or something like that.
I beleive both Scott and Cervélo are made in China too.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:20 pm
by bike_add1ct
I've heard from someone with a fair bit of knowledge that they're indeed from the same factory. Perhaps the new IMP technique used on the Addict is what also makes the R3 that stiff...

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:27 pm
by Skunk
2 wheels wrote:Most bikes that claimes to be "made in Taiwan" are actually made in China.


Well, Taiwan is pretty much China isn't it :P

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:54 pm
by madcow
My understanding as told by Scott, is that nothing else is made in the same factory as them.

There may be other brands made by the same manufacturer but not in the same factory. I'm told that Scott actually owns the building that their frames are built in, so that they can help make sure nobody outside of Scott has access to their technology. They don't allow any other brand to be made in their building.

True or not? I don't know, but it does come from a reputable source who really doesn't have any reason to lie about it. It's the same person that told me 6months before the addict was shown, that they would have ISP's. It's also the same person that told me a month ago, that now all the addicts would be coming WITHOUT isp's. He was right on both accounts, I don't know why I'd doubt him about the factory.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:12 pm
by Kuiper
On the Cervelo Soloist Carbon box stands made in China 8)
Image

Would be nice if brands where more open with showing productionlines on there website (believe me those are cool :lol: and very addicted to see)
not related: I can call even right now cheap to almost every location worldwide for only 0,04ct a min. with my Telephone company :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:19 pm
by chisa
Skunk wrote:
2 wheels wrote:Most bikes that claimes to be "made in Taiwan" are actually made in China.


Well, Taiwan is pretty much China isn't it :P
you are not doing much for americans' reputations :roll:

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:49 pm
by Danton
The R3 and the Addict are made by Ten-Tech Composites.

Ten-Tech Composites is a Taiwanese company (Republic of China), who have a factory in Dongguan, People's Republic of China.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:01 pm
by wogamax
...they can help make sure nobody outside of Scott has access to their technology. They don't allow any other brand to be made in their building.


Call me a cynic, but I think Chinese attitudes toward intellectual property may become a challenge for Scott. I wish them luck.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:06 pm
by Kuiper
maybe a nice quote:

A single Airbus A380 superjumbo jet will use some 70,000 metric tons of carbon fiber, while the entire sporting goods industry consumes about 200,000 tons a year, Koh said. “We’re talking about three Airbuses,” he said. “And they have 150 on order.”


any actually know where the alu. ridley's come from? (just PM)

By the way it seems like to become a trend that people look for manufractors in Asia.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:37 pm
by Skunk
chisa wrote:
Skunk wrote:
2 wheels wrote:Most bikes that claimes to be "made in Taiwan" are actually made in China.


Well, Taiwan is pretty much China isn't it :P
you are not doing much for americans' reputations :roll:


This was a joke...

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:48 pm
by divve
I don't blame them for not showing production lines. Generally they look very low-tech and almost sweatshop like. Anyone thinking it looks like F1 production will have a harsh wake up call :)

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:57 pm
by CharlesM
wogamax wrote:
...they can help make sure nobody outside of Scott has access to their technology. They don't allow any other brand to be made in their building.


Call me a cynic, but I think Chinese attitudes toward intellectual property may become a challenge for Scott. I wish them luck.



Scott have no worries about intelectual property... That's a company run by a guy that's been around a few blocks and fully understands what they are into. They're building a good bike...



It's the consumer that thinks a knock off that looks similar will have the same build quality... :wink:


The look on someone's face when they find out their Bvulgari Chrono is fake is very near the same look someone has as they're going over the bars...


Scott have had an enviable track record so far, regardless of where they're made.

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:57 pm
by Weenie

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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:54 am
by bike_add1ct
Danton wrote:The R3 and the Addict are made by Ten-Tech Composites.

Ten-Tech Composites is a Taiwanese company (Republic of China), who have a factory in Dongguan, People's Republic of China.


Ah yes, Ten Tech. That brand name was also shown on the seatstays of the Saunier Duval CR1's for at least one season. An employer of TTC also once posted here, you might wanna do a search.


@Pez: regardless of where Scotts are made, no-one's doubting their quality here. And R3's are equally astounding bikes (maybe except for the finish) so it's no shame in my book if they'd come from the same factory or something.