Cervélo R3 made in same factory as Scott Addict?

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by CaptainWilier

20.100 Fr wrote:I'm French.
A big number is written like this
12 236 789,12

No dots at all, only a comma for the decimal part. Space between 3 numbers to ease reading.


Trying to confuse the rest of the world? :? :wink: That looks more like a phone number.

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I just do this:

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by triharder

Soloist Carbon has a sticker on it that states it is made in China. The reason they make in China is simple, if these company's produced their products in the West, the quality would be no better, lead times would be a joke and none of us would be able to afford them :cry: .

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Back to the topic! As promised, here is the photo:
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Was googling a bit, and stumbled upon the TTC site. The nude carbon frames shown in "Products" look somewhat familiar don't they?

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And this fork too, looks familiar: :wink:

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2 wheels wrote:
20.100 Fr wrote:I'm French.
A big number is written like this
12 236 789,12

No dots at all, only a comma for the decimal part. Space between 3 numbers to ease reading.

Here in Denmark it would however be written with dots instead of spaces, like this:
12.236.789,12

In English speaking countries it would be the opposite with dots and commas swapped AFAIK, like this:
12,236,789.12


Actually, official notation in Canada would be 12 236 789.12 , but since we do so much business with the US, we rarely use this. Similar problem with metric measure, it's only in knowing both systems that you really understand how insane imperial measure is.

But back to the topic: what is the point of these threads? Are we to derive some negative connotation to parts manufactured in Asia? Whether that be Taiwan or China?
Cervelo does its design in Toronto, field testing in Europe, manufacturing in China, assembly back in Canada. Given the sad state of quality (LOL) manufacturing in Canada, this makes good sense. The only other Canadian company to do it all within Canada is Guru, which are excellent frames, but way out of the price range of mortals, and not quite as leading-edge in technology.

My impression is that Asia has sent a wake-up call to bikes manufacturers world-wide, and the net result is less expensive, higher quality components, both by Asian companies and European companies. Campagnolo is a good recent example of this.

Asia is good for cyclists.

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My impression is that Asia has sent a wake-up call to bikes manufacturers world-wide, and the net result is less expensive, higher quality components, both by Asian companies and European companies. Campagnolo is a good recent example of this.

Asia is good for cyclists.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/ita ... olnago.php


Ernesto Colnago also believes Taiwan/China is the future. Excerpt:


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Colnago notes that "you can see here with these forks, there's carbon and there's carbon. See how thick the carbon fibre is on my fork in the center, while the other two forks use a much thinner material. I simply won't take chances with carbon fibre!"

Just back from the Taiwan bicycle show, we asked Colnago about his decision to join the Taiwan sourcing consortium controlled by Giant Bicycles called the A-Team. Colnago has become a A-Team sponsor member, joining Specialized and Trek. Colnago told us right off the bat, "we will source several mid-range models for 2006 in Taiwan. The rest of our production will remain Made In Italy and will always remain as Made In Italy. But we see that the the world of bicycles is changing. Thanks to our collaboration with A-Team, now we can obtain high-quality competitively priced bicycles that can bear the Colnago name."

Colnago further explained to Cyclingnews, "Of course, a few years ago, I would have never considered taking a partner in Taiwan. But now the time is right. I am the first Italian who has officially decided to move part of my production to Taiwan. So I've joined the A-Team because when I to do something, I always try to do it in the most serious and clearest way possible. I am not trying to hide anything here. Colnago wants to collaborate with the best Taiwanese companies. At Colnago, we go ahead by small steps; we're a company that operates in a high-end niche market are not looking to sell a lot of bicycles. Plus, Colnago is synonymous with quality and production control and with the A-Team we can produce high-quality bicycles in Taiwan that maintain the standard of quality and design I've established at Colnago over the last fifty years."

Colnago also told Cyclingnews that his Taiwan sourced product would not be available in the US. "Most of our sales in America are high-end frame sets so we don't believe that our new mid-range bikes meet the market needs. They are destined only for Europe and Asia."

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by CounTeR

So that's why the Colnago Star Carbon forks weigh a crapload. :)
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