now, if you're talking about a front, I think I heard it done before, but I don't know where.
So basically a 24 hole rim plus a 32 hole hub laced 16 on the drive and 8 on the non-drive side.
I suppose if you were really anal you could even fill the empty spoke holes with a rivet so you wouldn't have an open hole.
520 Dan wrote:that might work, but i don't know if it would be strong enough because its for a rear wheel.
If I've counted correctly Campy only uses 21 spokes on their Eurus rear wheel
So you'd be using more spokes than what seems to be a pretty strong wheel.
stiffness I would think would be a function of spoke gauge, number of spokes, and to a smaller extent lacing pattern.
I'll bet if you went straight 14 gauge on the radial side and mabe 14/15 on the drive side you'd end up being as stiff as a 14/17 all around wheel 32 spoke wheel.
I suppose if you wanted to be really anal you could calculate out cross sectional areas and angles and figure it out exactly.
What I'm trying to impart is if you plan it out well (inlcuind chosing suitable strength spokes) there are many opportunies to make a strong non-standard wheel.
The one that interests me now is a rear 32 hole hub and rim, laced with 16 drive side, 8 non drive - paired up like Campy does..................yes
tommasini wrote:The one that interests me now is a rear 32 hole hub and rim, laced with 16 drive side, 8 non drive - paired up like Campy does..................yes
First tried this when the deeper section rims came out, as they had the stiffness to pull this off, It works well but make sure you tape/glue up the unused spoke holes so the rims dont fill up with water
The non-drive spokes will come up to a much more even spoke tension to the drive side spoke. Go for it
Rims: Zipp 280 carbon fiber rims, approximately 280 grams each, 38mm deep (for good aerodynamics). The front has 16 holes, the rear 24.
Front is the American Classic Micro hub ... with thick flanges to support the low spoke count.
Rear is the American Classic Ultralite Cassette ... 32-hole hub that has been laced with 16 spokes on the cassette side and 8 on the other side. This arrangement helps equalize the tension between the left and right side spokes, reducing the likelihood of spokes going slack and the wheel going out of true.
Spokes: 16 Alpina stainless steel aero (oval) spokes on the front wheel, laced in a one-cross pattern. 24 Hoshi stainless steel bladed spokes on the rear, 8 in a one-cross pattern on the left, 16 in a two-cross lacing on the right. This makes for a durable, low-maintenance wheel. Neither the Alpina nor the Hoshi spokes require the hubs to be slotted to accommodate them (a procedure that weakens the hub).
The wheels were built using the methods described in the standard text, 'The Bicycle Wheel' by Jobst Brandt, the spokes taken to uniform high tension and stress-relieved for durability.
And for further explanation from Dave's Wheels website:
Rear wheels are 24-spoke triplet style - 16-drive side spokes, 2 crosses, and 8 non-drive side 1 cross pattern. The two to one distribution of rear spokes provides for greater drive torque and enhanced the overall strength and stiffness. This is the same spoking arrangement that I got started with in 1987; of course I copied it from "Hi E" wheels in 1979... The more things change the more they stay the same!