Colnago All New Aero Bike

[bmrk]

My first two thoughts relate less to professionals but more to general consumers which this bike might not even be targeted to. First, that seatpost is going to be annoying to deal with, initially. There’s practically no adjustment room. So there’s either going to have to be a lot of sizes or this bike isn’t going to fit a lot of people. Or people aren’t going to be able to get the size they want. I’m thinking of people sizing down but using a long seatpost. Not sure what the max length could be but with the angle of the seatpost, going long can’t be super strong structurally. Also curious where the di2 battery would go but seeing as UAE is Shimano they had to have designed for it. Maybe downtube like the SuperSix.

My other thought is the seat tube water bottle. Looks like it’s going to be a little awkward getting to. And possible a big aero loss. Maybe they’re going to tell the pros you only get 1 bottle now but for consumers the position might take a little getting used to.

Also either be heavy or flexy laterally due to that seat tube arrangement.

[DoesMyBikeLookFat]

I actually like it. Though, would be interesting to see whether Tour results would back all of this up. Seeing how bikes like the S5 are not meaningfully faster than e.g. an SL8, as a non racer would I really want to live with the potential compromises of this setup? Especially in terms of future resale: looks like the seatpost would have to be cut to size, and the v-shaped bar might of course become obsolete in the next three years when a new model is launched.

I believe Tour's protocol is limited to a pretty narrow range of raw angles. That minimises the benefit to deep tube frames in the results. The S5 and SystemSix are still substantially faster - 6/7w is almost as big a difference as swapping Corsa Pros for S TRs, a much faster tire.

[cleanneon98]

I actually like it. Though, would be interesting to see whether Tour results would back all of this up. Seeing how bikes like the S5 are not meaningfully faster than e.g. an SL8, as a non racer would I really want to live with the potential compromises of this setup? Especially in terms of future resale: looks like the seatpost would have to be cut to size, and the v-shaped bar might of course become obsolete in the next three years when a new model is launched.

I believe Tour's protocol is limited to a pretty narrow range of raw angles. That minimises the benefit to deep tube frames in the results. The S5 and SystemSix are still substantially faster - 6/7w is almost as big a difference as swapping Corsa Pros for S TRs, a much faster tire.

People put way too much faith into a single number. I appreciate Tour testing but they take over 40 measurements and condense them into a single number and we don't know how the weighting is done, it's better than having no data at all but needs to be taken with a grain of salt and not as an absolute.

[CustomMetal]

Wheels look like a new 5.6

[toxin]

I actually like it. Though, would be interesting to see whether Tour results would back all of this up. Seeing how bikes like the S5 are not meaningfully faster than e.g. an SL8, as a non racer would I really want to live with the potential compromises of this setup? Especially in terms of future resale: looks like the seatpost would have to be cut to size, and the v-shaped bar might of course become obsolete in the next three years when a new model is launched.

I believe Tour's protocol is limited to a pretty narrow range of raw angles. That minimises the benefit to deep tube frames in the results. The S5 and SystemSix are still substantially faster - 6/7w is almost as big a difference as swapping Corsa Pros for S TRs, a much faster tire.

Tour measures a very wide yaw range actually and the s5 in particular excells at low yaw and not high

[TobinHatesYou]

Wheels look like a new 5.6

Too deep to be 5.6s imo. I think they're just the current 6.7s.

[js]

I'll echo the comments about this seat tube and seat angle being less desirable than a Cervelo S5 or 3T.

On those bikes, you get the UCI-required initial set-back sorted in the frame, and then the near-vertical seat post means almost every rider has the option of using a forward position - which very much seems to be the way the racing world is moving. On this bike, if you have longer legs or opted to size down to have a lower front end, your saddle height could place you a fair bit further behind the BB than ideal.

[TobinHatesYou]

I'll echo the comments about this seat tube and seat angle being less desirable than a Cervelo S5 or 3T.

On those bikes, you get the UCI-required initial set-back sorted in the frame, and then the near-vertical seat post means almost every rider has the option of using a forward position - which very much seems to be the way the racing world is moving. On this bike, if you have longer legs or opted to size down to have a lower front end, your saddle height could place you a fair bit further behind the BB than ideal.

Though if Colnago wants to, it would be very easy to lower the front-end on this bike with a non-riser bar.

[spdntrxi]

Wheels look like a new 5.6

Too deep to be 5.6s imo. I think they're just the current 6.7s.

yep I think so too.. which are 60/67 ish

[spartan]

excellent release date. give UAE team plenty of time to get aclimated to new road platform this winter. if they can get the complete race weight mid 7 kg i believe Pogo will be using it to try and finally win Milan San Remo. this bike should be easily 10-15 watts faster than the v4rs

[crispeecycle]

Right now, I'm really feeling the aesthetics of the frame—it's got a fresh look, kind of like when the S5 came out. Colnago fanboys might not be on board, but this is exactly why the industry and bike brands have been stuck playing it safe with designs. Just like the S5, though, everyone was initially hesitant, but opinions shifted. We'll just have to wait and see, but I think this might be a success. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in a couple of years, other brands start following suit

[satanas]

Pass. IMHO it's ugly AF - at least the Oltre comes in celeste - and there will be probably <10mm of seat height adjustment once the post is cut. Plus the front end is presumably totally proprietary in all respects. This is all fine if you're in a pro team with a truck full of spare parts and mechanics to look after it all, but no way would I buy one, thanks very much.

[CJosephB]

Escapecollective wrote an article about this bike and mentioned how Tadej positioning over the years have him progress further and further forward and alluded that he preferred a shorter reach. If that is the case, the Y1RS won't be on the very agressive long and low fit, and probably similar to the V4RS, not exact.

[TobinHatesYou]

Escapecollective wrote an article about this bike and mentioned how Tadej positioning over the years have him progress further and further forward and alluded that he preferred a shorter reach. If that is the case, the Y1RS won't be on the very agressive long and low fit, and probably similar to the V4RS, not exact.

"Short reach" for Pogacar is still a custom 125mm equivalent barstem with 79mm/129mm reach/drop. If we wanted to fit a 176cm Pogacar around a 110mm stem, then the Y1Rs in his size could be 15mm longer than the 485mm V4Rs he currently rides (539mm stack, 383mm reach.) 539mm stack and 398mm reach (1.35:1 STR) would be fairly progressive. By WW standards it’s unthinkable.

We don't know what the specs of the Y1Rs barstem are, but yeah, "short reach" is relative.

[proffate]

Right now, I'm really feeling the aesthetics of the frame—it's got a fresh look, kind of like when the S5 came out. Colnago fanboys might not be on board, but this is exactly why the industry and bike brands have been stuck playing it safe with designs. Just like the S5, though, everyone was initially hesitant, but opinions shifted. We'll just have to wait and see, but I think this might be a success. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in a couple of years, other brands start following suit

Which s5 are you talking about? Cervelo has a long history of unapologetically funky aero designs, and the s5 disc was preceded by a pretty non-triangular s5 rim. So I don't remember being particularly shook by the disc s5, at least it supplanted this monstrosity:



It's true that somewhere along the way, cervelo went from dentist bike to racer bike, which is strange because they always had a wt team, but somehow jumbo visma sold the bike in a way that CSC and slipstream never could manage. Or maybe it's just that aero weenie-ism went from fringe to mainstream.