Colnago All New Aero Bike

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ChairmanJiang
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by ChairmanJiang

COLNAGO has also moved to using UDH and BSA in the future.

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by TobinHatesYou

Nereth wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:23 am

Nah it's pretty tough to get really thin without the bayonet fork. Look at the factor hanzo, which got the frontal area down to 15mm. When you reduce the width like that you need disproportionally more longitudinal length to keep the required stiffness/strength in lateral bending (e.g. like 50mm long in the case of the Hanzo). But if you want all that length to rotate inside a head tube, the head tube becomes outrageously wide just to contain it in any of the rotated orientations. Thus, the only real way to do it is to get the steerer outside the headtube. Then you can make it arbitrarily longer.

That said, from the images, I don't think they actually used the bayonet in this case to significantly reduce head tube width. So your original point stands.

The bayonet section of my TT1 is 34.8mm wide. The narrowest part of my Madone SLR Gen 6 HT is 42.2mm. A basic IS41 headset bearing for a non-ICR bike is 6mm wider than the entire cross-section of my TT1 HT. From what I can tell, the Y1Rs HT is roughly the same width.

Not as skinny as the Hanzo, but this bike needs its front end to be stiff enough in a sprint. There's a reason why the Raiden doesn't have anything remotely close to the Hanzo's front-end.

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lazyriderzhao wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:33 am
well done微信图片_20241202143253.png
Hoho, yeah! Now it's obvious where the design comes from.
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alanyu wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:56 am
Vote your U(lgy)OTY?
oltre
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

I don’t mind the Colnago at all and I think it will look good in an action shot or in video.

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by njleach

alanyu wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:56 am
Vote your U(lgy)OTY?
You forgot to include a picture of the Madone, but out of all of those the Colnago is the most aesthetically pleasing

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by Talrand

alanyu wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:56 am
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Colnago should include pictures of Oltre in their marketing materials 8)

Honestly, I don't hate the look of Y1Rs. The seat tube is a bit much but the front looks good.

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by CJosephB

alanyu wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:56 am
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I actually like the looks of the Y1RS, need to see better pics. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

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Ugliest to least ugly:
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Yes I really don't like the SL8 😂😂
Allegra- Steel Lugs ?.?kg
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by bmrk

Comparable size sl8. Both squares are at 74deg angle from the BB to seat tube, probaly same geo as the v4rs with a potentially slacker HT.
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by stoney

I really like the looks of the Colnago.

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by Lina

At least everyone that's been screaming how all new bikes look the same should be happy. All these distinct looking bikes coming to the market. (Ignore the fact that carbon bikes have always been more distinct from one another than metal tubed bikes that all actually do look the same)

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by robeambro

I actually like it. Though, would be interesting to see whether Tour results would back all of this up. Seeing how bikes like the S5 are not meaningfully faster than e.g. an SL8, as a non racer would I really want to live with the potential compromises of this setup? Especially in terms of future resale: looks like the seatpost would have to be cut to size, and the v-shaped bar might of course become obsolete in the next three years when a new model is launched.
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by LanceLegstrong

My first two thoughts relate less to professionals but more to general consumers which this bike might not even be targeted to. First, that seatpost is going to be annoying to deal with, initially. There’s practically no adjustment room. So there’s either going to have to be a lot of sizes or this bike isn’t going to fit a lot of people. Or people aren’t going to be able to get the size they want. I’m thinking of people sizing down but using a long seatpost. Not sure what the max length could be but with the angle of the seatpost, going long can’t be super strong structurally. Also curious where the di2 battery would go but seeing as UAE is Shimano they had to have designed for it. Maybe downtube like the SuperSix.

My other thought is the seat tube water bottle. Looks like it’s going to be a little awkward getting to. And possible a big aero loss. Maybe they’re going to tell the pros you only get 1 bottle now but for consumers the position might take a little getting used to.
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