Magicshine front lights with remote control (and possible alternatives)

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Agent041
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by Agent041

I have bought Magishine Allty 2500S, and while the brightness is superb, I am deeply disapointed. The light gets really hot even when charging, and way worse on riding. And I was riding in about zero degrees.

Then, the light »eats« battery even when not turned on. Have fully charged it, and I went on a ride 2 days later, and was already on about 65%. After the ride, I charged it again. And hours later, was already dropping %, after about 10 hours, was already on 85%.

And finally, duration on highest brightness was only about 30min, which is way worse than advertised 1h30min. And as said, I rode in cold conditions. And when there was supposed to be 17% left, the light just simply went off.

The light is going back (hopefully BikeInn will not be problematic on this matter, as they are with everything else). I was thinking of getting Magicshine Ray 2600B. The battery is integrated (Allty was removable, so probable cause for draining the battery level when off). The reviews are mostly positive. Similar beam patterns and modes. But Battery is around 6700, when Allty is around 3500. They weights of the light is similar. How is this possible with almost double the battery power?

I do not want to go for another brand yet, as the remote control is very important to me, and they have this covered superbly.
Any comments and review on these lights?

If someone has any other recomendations on similar level and integrated battery, with remote control that goes from max output to another specific output and back immediatelly, would be much aprechiated.

mathemagician
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by mathemagician


Agent041 wrote:If someone has any other recomendations on similar level and integrated battery, with remote control that goes from max output to another specific output and back immediatelly, would be much aprechiated.
I'm fairly certain the Ravemen CR- range has that function...I have the CR-800 but must admit I've never bothered with the remote.

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Agent041
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by Agent041

mathemagician wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:18 am
I'm fairly certain the Ravemen CR- range has that function...I have the CR-800 but must admit I've never bothered with the remote.
CR max has lower lumens. But have looked at PR2400. It is more expensive and much heavier. And would need to buy extra mount for inegrated (aero) bars (which is hard to find), and am still not sure if you can toggle between 2 setting vie remote. Can you do that on CR- models?

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by jlok

For MagicShine lights with remote, I think you need to shut it down completely by long pressing the power switch around 5 secs. If not, the light will be in standby state ready for remote control. That might be the reason why the battery drains itself when not in use. I did it every time after use to prevent battery drain on my EVO 1700.
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EtoDemerzel
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by EtoDemerzel

magicshine 1700sd is awesome
if you run Di2, you can pair it with the shifter buttons. the beam pattern is fantastic for road and no battery issues
magicshine support is also really great. I would contact them directly if you get any problems from bikeinn

Agent041
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by Agent041

jlok wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:38 am
For MagicShine lights with remote, I think you need to shut it down completely by long pressing the power switch around 5 secs. If not, the light will be in standby state ready for remote control. That might be the reason why the battery drains itself when not in use. I did it every time after use to prevent battery drain on my EVO 1700.
Interesting info. Did not know that, and is also not in included manual. Will need to take into account with Ray 2600B.

Do you press for 5sec when turning the light of, or 5 sec when the light is already off?
And do you have to then again pair the remote control with the light again, the next time you use the light?

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by Agent041

EtoDemerzel wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:43 am
magicshine 1700sd is awesome
if you run Di2, you can pair it with the shifter buttons. the beam pattern is fantastic for road and no battery issues
magicshine support is also really great. I would contact them directly if you get any problems from bikeinn
I run Di2 both road and gravel bike, but to use the extra buttons, when you have frozen fingers is a big no-go. They are difficoult to press in normal weather and short gloves, and with thick gloves and frozen fingers is a mission impossible.

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by jlok

Agent041 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:19 am
jlok wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:38 am
For MagicShine lights with remote, I think you need to shut it down completely by long pressing the power switch around 5 secs. If not, the light will be in standby state ready for remote control. That might be the reason why the battery drains itself when not in use. I did it every time after use to prevent battery drain on my EVO 1700.
Interesting info. Did not know that, and is also not in included manual. Will need to take into account with Ray 2600B.

Do you press for 5sec when turning the light of, or 5 sec when the light is already off?
And do you have to then again pair the remote control with the light again, the next time you use the light?
After turning off the light, I press and hold the power button until the led light on the button flashes red. That means the light now "really" turned off and not able to be remote controlled. That was my EVO 1700. I'm unsure if that applies to your product.

p.s. My EVO 1700 mounting tab broke and the light was gone and lost during a fast descent on rough roads.
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by Tifosiphil

Always had good luck with Exposure lights and most of their larger lights come with a button as standard

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by bsharp77

Are you riding on road or off road?
If road, the Exposure Sirius is all the light you need - as good a light as ive ever used.

Small, more than bright enough to light the way in complete darkness, easily mounted (I use a gopro mount under my garmin) and battery life is excellent.
Plus it has the option of a wired remote control and also an external battery pack if you were ever doing a ultra ride or something like that.

A front light is not something worth experimenting with - you need it to be flawless every single time.

Agent041
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by Agent041

I start riding in day light and finish in about 1,5-2h in night. I ride road or gravel.

But why I want so powerfull light? Because I ride short steep hills and then steep technical descents, where I need really good brightness (also wide). And here also comes in play the remote. When sudenly car shows around the corner, I need to switch to lower intensity immediatelly, and then with one click back to maximal brightness. Magicshine has that covered very well (had Lezyne before with wired remote, but when they went to USB-C, they have no remote anymore)..

The light is on handlebar, and I do prefer it to be as light as possible (althought is not a must), as I jump a lot out of the saddle, and want that front end to be "light". And I do want battery inside the light and not a seperate battery pack.

Regarding Exposure lights, is too expensive for wanted brightness.

bsharp77
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by bsharp77

When it comes to lights, you get what you pay for.
The Exposure works flawlessly - no overheating, excellent battery, fit and forget.
It took me years of faffing about with cheap lights before going for the Exposure - oh how I wish I done it sooner.

Agent041
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by Agent041

bsharp77 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:53 pm
When it comes to lights, you get what you pay for.
The Exposure works flawlessly - no overheating, excellent battery, fit and forget.
It took me years of faffing about with cheap lights before going for the Exposure - oh how I wish I done it sooner.
Still do not see they would have remote control. Do they have it?

bsharp77
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by bsharp77

Yes indeed.
They have a remote that works with all Exposure lights with a "smart port".
(It's the same port you use to plug in the charger).

https://www.exposurelights.com/products ... FRCCVQpJgm

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by EtoDemerzel

Agent041 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:27 am
EtoDemerzel wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:43 am
magicshine 1700sd is awesome
if you run Di2, you can pair it with the shifter buttons. the beam pattern is fantastic for road and no battery issues
magicshine support is also really great. I would contact them directly if you get any problems from bikeinn
I run Di2 both road and gravel bike, but to use the extra buttons, when you have frozen fingers is a big no-go. They are difficoult to press in normal weather and short gloves, and with thick gloves and frozen fingers is a mission impossible.
it also comes with the same remote as all the other Magicshine lights

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