Intropy Speedster SS(+)

[RDY]

Ordering one for a rider, and maybe myself too.

They don't have an HK USD account, and Paypal isn't an option as it needs to be via a dealer.

When I've dealt with Chinese companies before they always used HK based USD or EUR accounts. Is there a problem with transfers to MLC based USD or EUR accounts? Or just higher charges?

[RDY]

Also, @pk0r - did it come with a spacer cover for third party stems? I.E. semi-integrated setup?

[pk0r]

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:

Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

[RDY]

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

[Dhxhd]

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

It's best if you can contact them directly, I bought a handlebar for my foil directly through them with no extra taxes (I live in Europe)

[pipii]

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Hi,pk0r. Do you think it is suitable for using singe speed xplr and 35c tires to build an allroad bike?

[Marioooouzd]

Any other option to contact them without wechat? I cannot create an account, I don't know why. They have some email or something ?

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

It's best if you can contact them directly, I bought a handlebar for my foil directly through them with no extra taxes (I live in Europe)

[jih]

3600 euros...

Frame looks nice, but no way I'm putting this much down for a frame for a make I've never heard of. That's £3,000. Online I can get an SL8 (non-sworks) frameset for £2,500 or a TCR Advanced SL for £1,900. Hard to see why I'd choose the unknown option when both of those are pro-level race frames.

[jih]

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[Dhxhd]

Any other option to contact them without wechat? I cannot create an account, I don't know why. They have some email or something ?

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

It's best if you can contact them directly, I bought a handlebar for my foil directly through them with no extra taxes (I live in Europe)

As far as I know, there is no other way to contact them. Currently, the only ways to contact their sales staff directly and quickly should be WeChat and Taobao. My WeChat uses a European mobile phone number and I have no problems.

[Ciclisti]

Any other option to contact them without wechat? I cannot create an account, I don't know why. They have some email or something ?

Are you trying to order from them directly, as they did set up a PayPal account for me and I was able to pay that way.

Spacer/headset-wise the following kit was included:
PXL_20241023_171254139.MP.jpg


Maybe also an opportunity to update my impressions as I now have over 2K km on it.
As mentioned the bike is really stiff: BB stiffness when climbing or pushing is really absolutely outstanding, descending is also very sure-footed. Here the balanced geo (at least in my size 51) does help as well.

Nonetheless it is definitely lagging a bit in smoothness: I am actually wondering whether the non "+" version would be a bit more forgiving there and the SS+ more trimmed for benchmarks/record numbers. Cobbles really takes some chatter and it would not be my preferred choice there. Then again having the option to run wider tires (compatibility up to 38mm rubber) negates this a bit again.
For regular roads, cycling paths or occassional dirt roads it is fine enough though.

It really is a fast bike and absolutely pushes you.
At least with the 28mm tires feels a bit like a sportscar (with track coilover suspension) to me: Not overly forgiving, but rewarding with speed on every corner and straight.

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

It's best if you can contact them directly, I bought a handlebar for my foil directly through them with no extra taxes (I live in Europe)

Ciclisti is distributor and dealer for Incolor in EU. This way all payment issues, extra duties and taxes and freight costs are avoided for the customer. All taken care of by Ciclisti. You can contact via info@ciclisti.cc and you will be helped to get any Incolor you need

[RDY]

Any other option to contact them without wechat? I cannot create an account, I don't know why. They have some email or something ?

Is the middle left big one for use with the included cockpit, or with third party stems? Assume bearing is IS52?

I have a Paypal account but the shop can't pay via PP. It needs to be ordered via the shop or VAT / duties will be insane on a personal import.

It's best if you can contact them directly, I bought a handlebar for my foil directly through them with no extra taxes (I live in Europe)

Ciclisti is distributor and dealer for Incolor in EU. This way all payment issues, extra duties and taxes and freight costs are avoided for the customer. All taken care of by Ciclisti. You can contact via info@ciclisti.cc and you will be helped to get any Incolor you need

I'm not in Europe as ought to be obvious. It'd be way cheaper than through you, importing it directly as a personal import, if I were. If it were to work at all, the standard frameset would probably end up costing over €5k as a personal import here.

[Keikeimama]

Does anyone know the actual weight of the SS Plus?

[Marioooouzd]

I know, I got the numbers from CICLISTI. They are very helpfull and suportive. I have almost bought the frame, however it's too expensive, unfortunately. The brand is unknown, as someone mentioned, I can easily buy the Cube C68X for that. The answer from them below:

The weight of SS frame is about 930g;, the weight of SS+ frame is about 880g;. Both for size 58 in raw black carbon color.
Op top of that there is an extra 45g weight saving for SS+ because of titanium alloy 3D printed accessories (computer mount, handlebar cap, saddle rail clamp cover/base, front derailleur hanger) against normal lightweight alloy used for standard SS.