Fully internal Waltly Ti endurance bike

[HannibalLecter]

New brake calipers, didnt have a chance to give them the beans, but yes they are lighter and sexier.
I wouldnt argue thats a very meaningful upgrade though if Im being honest

[Hensem]

Congratulations, you have a great bike. I am also waiting for Waltly to weld my frame, they promise for the end of October. Most of the parts and wheels have already been purchased. This will be the second frame from Waltly. I have been riding the current one for 4 years if not more and the bike has survived many bikepacking trips abroad and moves to another continent.

[HannibalLecter]

Congratulations, you have a great bike. I am also waiting for Waltly to weld my frame, they promise for the end of October. Most of the parts and wheels have already been purchased. This will be the second frame from Waltly. I have been riding the current one for 4 years if not more and the bike has survived many bikepacking trips abroad and moves to another continent.

Thank you very much! They were very quick in making mine, considering its a custom bike.
Happy to hear that you also are satisfied. Will your second bike be an endurance or also a bikepacking bike?

[Hensem]

My second bike will be a road endurance bike. My body proportions are such that I need a short and tall frame. Since I couldn't find anything made of carbon, I'm building a custom titanium bike again.

[HannibalLecter]

My second bike will be a road endurance bike. My body proportions are such that I need a short and tall frame. Since I couldn't find anything made of carbon, I'm building a custom titanium bike again.

Nice, when its finished make a thread, ti bikes must get more attention

[gksplash]

Really nice project, inspiring and a bit jealous in a nice way.. fyi I am currently in the process of getting one of my own via xacd, should be completed by early 2025 with all the new parts and assembly, I am not in a rush. Full custom design by me with the help a many comments and reading left and right. My current Ti setup is more than 20yrs and still running strong.

[HannibalLecter]

Really nice project, inspiring and a bit jealous in a nice way.. fyi I am currently in the process of getting one of my own via xacd, should be completed by early 2025 with all the new parts and assembly, I am not in a rush. Full custom design by me with the help a many comments and reading left and right. My current Ti setup is more than 20yrs and still running strong.

Hahah thanks, soon you will have your own build to be proud of. Curious, why you went with XACD? Anything particular?
I also designed the geometry, but I really didnt get too anal, I also had nothing to compare it to, as it was my first road bike.
And here is a pic after the most recent upgrades;
The weight is a bit suspicious, because it seems I lost only 80 grams after upgrading front and rear discs and brake calipers. The savings from the discs ahould be 120 g and from the calipers 30 at least.
Maybe something fishy about this park tool scale

[gksplash]

Really nice project, inspiring and a bit jealous in a nice way.. fyi I am currently in the process of getting one of my own via xacd, should be completed by early 2025 with all the new parts and assembly, I am not in a rush. Full custom design by me with the help a many comments and reading left and right. My current Ti setup is more than 20yrs and still running strong.

Hahah thanks, soon you will have your own build to be proud of. Curious, why you went with XACD? Anything particular?
I also designed the geometry, but I really didnt get too anal, I also had nothing to compare it to, as it was my first road bike.
And here is a pic after the most recent upgrades;
The weight is a bit suspicious, because it seems I lost only 80 grams after upgrading front and rear discs and brake calipers. The savings from the discs ahould be 120 g and from the calipers 30 at least.
Maybe something fishy about this park tool scale

XACD, long story but will give a full review once the build is compleeted, but so far so good. Pls don't tell me this is your personal workshop in the background and yes I went full anal even for my standards and I am a P.ENG even looking into the possibility of anodizing Ti by myself. Labour of love.

[HannibalLecter]

Really nice project, inspiring and a bit jealous in a nice way.. fyi I am currently in the process of getting one of my own via xacd, should be completed by early 2025 with all the new parts and assembly, I am not in a rush. Full custom design by me with the help a many comments and reading left and right. My current Ti setup is more than 20yrs and still running strong.

Hahah thanks, soon you will have your own build to be proud of. Curious, why you went with XACD? Anything particular?
I also designed the geometry, but I really didnt get too anal, I also had nothing to compare it to, as it was my first road bike.
And here is a pic after the most recent upgrades;
The weight is a bit suspicious, because it seems I lost only 80 grams after upgrading front and rear discs and brake calipers. The savings from the discs ahould be 120 g and from the calipers 30 at least.
Maybe something fishy about this park tool scale

XACD, long story but will give a full review once the build is compleeted, but so far so good. Pls don't tell me this is your personal workshop in the background and yes I went full anal even for my standards and I am a P.ENG even looking into the possibility of anodizing Ti by myself. Labour of love.

No, I work in that shop as a bike mechanic although I have a Master in Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering, because Im in Germany and I dont yet speak German.
The shop is comfy, the tools however are mostly made of cheese so I bring my own. And the bikes generally are not that cool, especially e bikes

[satanas]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

[HannibalLecter]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

I also heard that, that they are usually opposed to using butted tubes, but this wasnt my experience, they were accomodating to me. And I think I paid only 150$ more.
As for the diameters, top tube is 31.6x0.9x07x0.9
And downtube is 44.5x09x0.7x0.9

[CampagYOLO]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

Waltly have updated their quote sheet and now offer double butted top tubes and downtubes as standard

[HannibalLecter]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

Waltly have updated their quote sheet and now offer double butted top tubes and downtubes as standard

Standard they are not, you have to pay extra, but they are not opposed to it and now they are cheaper than before

[gksplash]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

Waltly have updated their quote sheet and now offer double butted top tubes and downtubes as standard

Standard they are not, you have to pay extra, but they are not opposed to it and now they are cheaper than before

From a design stand point I was on the fence on this one.. the weight saving I beleive is around 25-50g per tube, you may sacrifice a bit of stifness and the extra cost is not that significant. From a welding perspective they need to avoid overheating the butted portion since the wall is thinner. I am no welder so don't trust everything I say. FOMO got the better of me and also went for top and bottom tubes butted. That being said, once build I challendge you to verify if its butted

[HannibalLecter]

A couple of questions for the OP:

1. How difficult was it to get Waltly to use butted tubes? (When I asked a few years ago they seemed quite opposed to doing this.)
2. Do you know the diameters and wall thicknesses of the tubes they ended up using?

(I'm contemplating getting another feame from them next year and would prefer it to be a bit less stiff than the last (stolen), one, hence my interest in butted tubes.)

Waltly have updated their quote sheet and now offer double butted top tubes and downtubes as standard

Standard they are not, you have to pay extra, but they are not opposed to it and now they are cheaper than before

From a design stand point I was on the fence on this one.. the weight saving I beleive is around 25-50g per tube, you may sacrifice a bit of stifness and the extra cost is not that significant. From a welding perspective they need to avoid overheating the butted portion since the wall is thinner. I am no welder so don't trust everything I say. FOMO got the better of me and also went for top and bottom tubes butted. That being said, once build I challendge you to verify if its butted

They dont have to avoid the butted portion, since the areas to weld are not near to that. Thats why they are butted, and not just thinner. Id like to use a boroscope to verify that they are actually butted but whatever