Addict RC 2025

[MisterNoChain]

At the place where I work we have the RC 30 and 10 in. I've build the RC 10 and it weighed 7,04kg (in size M).

Clean looking bike, much better clamp for the seatpost, 240 hubs in the syncros wheels. The position of the second bottle cage should have been a bit lower though.

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[Lakal]

The question is why they don´t sell a bike which fits the 95% nomal people and the 5% pro- and semi-pro racers need to change parts?
Instead they sell a bike which fits the 5% and doesn´t fir the 95%.
Do they really think I will buy a non-fitting bike for 13.000 EUR and then spend on top money to swap parts to make it fit?

This bike fits more than semipros/pros. I am not a semipro/pro and I would still need a 130mm stem just to get in a decent race position on this bike.

Then you are in the 5% of people I mentioned.

I would still need to swap the stem and maybe the handlebar as well. There are so many other bikes for guys wanting a more relaxed position so maybe you could just buy one of them instead? I think it's great that every bike doesn't share the same geometry.

[pmprego]

The question is why they don´t sell a bike which fits the 95% nomal people and the 5% pro- and semi-pro racers need to change parts?
Instead they sell a bike which fits the 5% and doesn´t fir the 95%.
Do they really think I will buy a non-fitting bike for 13.000 EUR and then spend on top money to swap parts to make it fit?

This bike fits more than semipros/pros. I am not a semipro/pro and I would still need a 130mm stem just to get in a decent race position on this bike.

Then you are in the 5% of people I mentioned.

I would still need to swap the stem and maybe the handlebar as well. There are so many other bikes for guys wanting a more relaxed position so maybe you could just buy one of them instead? I think it's great that every bike doesn't share the same geometry.

That's why I said that Scott made their market research. This was their decision. Now is up to the market to decide if it was a good or bad decision.

The weight will be a huge selling point. Let's see if it pays off.

[KalleWirsch]

... There are so many other bikes for guys wanting a more relaxed position so maybe you could just buy one of them instead?...

Which one of them is 5,85 kg stock from the manufacturer?

[HannibalLecter]

Are we back in 2016 and weight winning ? Will weight be the next big thing?
How the turntables

[jayjay]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

[Factor50]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Thanks - I've ordered. Lets see if I can locate parts to build it out!

[EddyTwerckx]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

[pmprego]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

There might be a difference in seatpost weight. With the prior addict RC there were differences there but the HMX frameset came with the SL seatpost. However, the price difference HMX vs HMX-SL was not as big as now so they might be differentiating a bit more now.

[EddyTwerckx]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

There might be a difference in seatpost weight. With the prior addict RC there were differences there but the HMX frameset came with the SL seatpost. However, the price difference HMX vs HMX-SL was not as big as now so they might be differentiating a bit more now.

Spec sheet is showing the same seatpost. I know they have the special one with the insert and light but it looks like both framesets have the SL one. And Scott is claiming 640g for the SL and 690g for the regular HMX, likely bare frame. Fork is 275g for SL and 300g regular. So 75g difference before painting. We’ll see how close that lives up in real life.

[jayjay]

Fingers crossed for a speedy delivery

[EtoDemerzel]

Addict RC is a race bike. it's got race geo.

Cannondale SuperSix Evo or Canyon Aeroad are also race bikes, bit don´t have such a low and long geo like the Addict RC for people 175 / 180 cm tall.
So, calling a bike a "race bike" is not an argument.

it's not an argument. it's a statement of fact. It has a different geo than Cannondale and Canyon? Wow. Didn't realize this wasn't allowed.

[TwiggyForest]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






/S

[pmprego]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






/S

I got the irony but I get the point that many here make that bikes need to get longer. However, for that to happen, I guess they also need steeper seat tube angles.

From the bikes races in wt, the tarmac is probably the one with the shortest reach. Liv langma for instance replicates to the mm the tarmac geometry and is shorter than the TCR because it is supposed to be adjusted to women body.

The supersix is the tallest in terms of stack but longer than the corresponding tarmac.

For this new addict, Scott wanted to make it lower and longer. It's a race bike, it makes sense.

I just think it will either hurt sales or the backs of most of the people buying it (just because most people can't get the fit of a racer) which over time will push customers away. Unless, as Tobin said, they came up with a non-rc version that is as desirable and the rc version (talking about the weight of course).

[TwiggyForest]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






/S

I got the irony but I get the point that many here make that bikes need to get longer. However, for that to happen, I guess they also need steeper seat tube angles.

From the bikes races in wt, the tarmac is probably the one with the shortest reach. Liv langma for instance replicates to the mm the tarmac geometry and is shorter than the TCR because it is supposed to be adjusted to women body.

The supersix is the tallest in terms of stack but longer than the corresponding tarmac.

For this new addict, Scott wanted to make it lower and longer. It's a race bike, it makes sense.

I just think it will either hurt sales or the backs of most of the people buying it (just because most people can't get the fit of a racer) which over time will push customers away. Unless, as Tobin said, they came up with a non-rc version that is as desirable and the rc version (talking about the weight of course).

Longer and lower is great for racing but probably not the general public, the weirdest part of the Scott geometry is the slack seat tube angle.

More endurance bikes need to be desirable as you noted, most endurance bikes are just heavy or have weird proprietary parts. The Defy is probably the only Endurance bike I would consider right now.