Addict RC 2025

[jayjay]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

[Factor50]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Thanks - I've ordered. Lets see if I can locate parts to build it out!

[EddyTwerckx]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

[pmprego]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

There might be a difference in seatpost weight. With the prior addict RC there were differences there but the HMX frameset came with the SL seatpost. However, the price difference HMX vs HMX-SL was not as big as now so they might be differentiating a bit more now.

[EddyTwerckx]

You can order the framesets at R2-Bike today with -10%
(not in stock though)

Ordered the HMX frame. Liked the paint better though I’m hoping I won’t regret the added weight. If I remember correctly the difference between HMX and the SL frame was only about 50g, with probably 50-75g for the white paint so I’m hoping for only a 100g penalty. But I really like the white paint job better. I won’t be riding outside over the winter anyways so a March delivery is fine.

There might be a difference in seatpost weight. With the prior addict RC there were differences there but the HMX frameset came with the SL seatpost. However, the price difference HMX vs HMX-SL was not as big as now so they might be differentiating a bit more now.

Spec sheet is showing the same seatpost. I know they have the special one with the insert and light but it looks like both framesets have the SL one. And Scott is claiming 640g for the SL and 690g for the regular HMX, likely bare frame. Fork is 275g for SL and 300g regular. So 75g difference before painting. We’ll see how close that lives up in real life.

[jayjay]

Fingers crossed for a speedy delivery

[EtoDemerzel]

Addict RC is a race bike. it's got race geo.

Cannondale SuperSix Evo or Canyon Aeroad are also race bikes, bit don´t have such a low and long geo like the Addict RC for people 175 / 180 cm tall.
So, calling a bike a "race bike" is not an argument.

it's not an argument. it's a statement of fact. It has a different geo than Cannondale and Canyon? Wow. Didn't realize this wasn't allowed.

[TwiggyForest]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






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[pmprego]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






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I got the irony but I get the point that many here make that bikes need to get longer. However, for that to happen, I guess they also need steeper seat tube angles.

From the bikes races in wt, the tarmac is probably the one with the shortest reach. Liv langma for instance replicates to the mm the tarmac geometry and is shorter than the TCR because it is supposed to be adjusted to women body.

The supersix is the tallest in terms of stack but longer than the corresponding tarmac.

For this new addict, Scott wanted to make it lower and longer. It's a race bike, it makes sense.

I just think it will either hurt sales or the backs of most of the people buying it (just because most people can't get the fit of a racer) which over time will push customers away. Unless, as Tobin said, they came up with a non-rc version that is as desirable and the rc version (talking about the weight of course).

[TwiggyForest]

Everyone knows that the Tarmac has the perfect race geometry, anything longer and lower is too aggressive and anything short/taller is an endurance bike.






/S

I got the irony but I get the point that many here make that bikes need to get longer. However, for that to happen, I guess they also need steeper seat tube angles.

From the bikes races in wt, the tarmac is probably the one with the shortest reach. Liv langma for instance replicates to the mm the tarmac geometry and is shorter than the TCR because it is supposed to be adjusted to women body.

The supersix is the tallest in terms of stack but longer than the corresponding tarmac.

For this new addict, Scott wanted to make it lower and longer. It's a race bike, it makes sense.

I just think it will either hurt sales or the backs of most of the people buying it (just because most people can't get the fit of a racer) which over time will push customers away. Unless, as Tobin said, they came up with a non-rc version that is as desirable and the rc version (talking about the weight of course).

Longer and lower is great for racing but probably not the general public, the weirdest part of the Scott geometry is the slack seat tube angle.

More endurance bikes need to be desirable as you noted, most endurance bikes are just heavy or have weird proprietary parts. The Defy is probably the only Endurance bike I would consider right now.

[pmprego]

Longer and lower is great for racing but probably not the general public, the weirdest part of the Scott geometry is the slack seat tube angle.

More endurance bikes need to be desirable as you noted, most endurance bikes are just heavy or have weird proprietary parts. The Defy is probably the only Endurance bike I would consider right now.

The defy gets somewhat limited with that D steerer and the giant obsession with -10° stems. The defy ends up being lower than a corresponding supersix and just a bit higher then the tarmac. Not much of an endurance bike.

[EddyTwerckx]

The weird part to me about the whole "it's a race bike" argument is that it's not Scott's best race bike. Like, any pro team using Scott, I would bet most guys are going to choose the Foil every time. It's a good bit more aero and not super heavy. Unless the UCI drops the weight minimum, you're going to need to add weight to this, getting rid of any weight advantage. And throwing on super deep wheels to get the extra weight changes how the bike rides, especially in strong winds. I just don't see many pros picking this over the Foil. So they didn't need it to be super aggressive.

That said, the large sizes aren't too crazy for me. I put my order in for the HMX frameset.

[Grafiksm4n]

I've got an RC10 on order coming from an SL8.

The thing that interests me is the debate around the geometry. Take the SL8 (size 54cm) with a reach of 384mm is only 0.7 higher stack height than the Addict 54cm.

Specialized ship the tarmac with a 15mm setback post as standard on most sizes so combine that with the reach numbers and your at 399mm from a sitting perspective. The Scott is 0mm setback so remains as is at 395.1mm.

For comparison my gravel bike (the crux) is 388mm reach with a 20mm setback post so is even longer!

Also on the seatpost angle, the addict chain stays are 410mm and to allow for clearance the seatube is 5mm forward of bb centre. My assumption is that to get the seat into a "normal" position it's had to be slackened slightly otherwise it would remain 5mm forward.

I don't think that the addict appears more aggressive than the general race bike segment?

[TobinHatesYou]

You don’t change your saddle position just because you have a setback seatpost or slack or steep STA. Frame reach is frame reach, it is measured from the BB.

[Grafiksm4n]

You don’t change your saddle position just because you have a setback seatpost or slack or steep STA. Frame reach is frame reach, it is measured from the BB.

Yeah but frame reach is isolated, if you have 20mm setback post vs a zero setback the distance to hoods (which is the number most people actually care about) is affected. The point is from a fit perspective you need to consider saddle position, stem length, bar reach numbers to give a full account of how the bike fits someone.

My point was looking at the reach value alone, seems like I won't fit a medium addict vs my SL8 when in fact the 15mm setback post nets out at a similar fit and feel.