Thanks for double checking. We have the same opinion about the 2XL geometry. This is by far the biggest frame I have ever seen. Unfortunately, Canyon goes very long in wheelbase and with a very short seatpost but on the other hand in a positive way with a very long reach. Other aero bikes have 380mm seatpost lenght (e.g. Scott Foil) which ends up with a much smaller frame, which is also visually much more appealing.wrx9rr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:43 pmJust re-measured seatheight and looks more like 868mm so this would lead to 876mm max height.ChrisRideLog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:55 pm[quote=wrx9rr post_id=1893713 time=1728485452
that's interesting thanks for the info. In the geometry chart max is mentioned with 874mm and in your case it is around 878mm. For sure it is hard to measure exactly but within +/- 2mm should be possible.
That would mean I could fit on a XL ...
But obsessing over a mm is pointless imo as this also depends on your preferred setback and even more so on the type of saddle.
I came from a 2019 Aeroad in 2XL and was quite keen to fit on a XL this time around. Pretty happy with it so far. Feels a lot more nimble as it doesn't have the wheelbase of a bus anymore.
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Hi, I'm struggling to find the correct size (182 cm) M or L. Can anyone measure the lengths between:
- middle of the axle and the top of stem
- the nose of the saddle to the middle of the handlebar
Last year I bought canyon Grizl (M) and the size is perfect, but Aeroad is more agressive.
My focus izalco (L) is set:
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem 62 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 60 cm
- middle of the axle and the top of stem
- the nose of the saddle to the middle of the handlebar
Last year I bought canyon Grizl (M) and the size is perfect, but Aeroad is more agressive.
My focus izalco (L) is set:
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem 62 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 60 cm
Hi, my CFR is size M. The saddle is moved to the front, the stem is at the lowes point.gmarmar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:34 amHi, I'm struggling to find the correct size (182 cm) M or L. Can anyone measure the lengths between:
- middle of the axle and the top of stem
- the nose of the saddle to the middle of the handlebar
Last year I bought canyon Grizl (M) and the size is perfect, but Aeroad is more agressive.
My focus izalco (L) is set:
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem 62 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 60 cm
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem - 56 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 54.5 cm
I've tried Grizl size M as well. I am 178, been riding Giant TCR sized ML and Aeroad in M fits me even better, having the same reach and a bit lower stack. My bikefitter tells the same. I believe you do not need L.
No I mean initially they stated it could go beyond that, but now they corrected it to 876mm or whatever.ChrisRideLog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:37 pmDo you mean the latest Aeroad in size XL can go up 885mm from mid of crank to top of saddle?NordicSal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:06 amSize XLBadBoyR wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:29 amWhat size frame and saddle height are you running?NordicSal wrote:Canyon has updated their seatheight and seatpost length measurements, so now I don't fit on the bike anymore in the size I want.
Originally the seatpost was stated to be 313mm. Now it's at 301mm. I think there's been a longer than 313mm measurement too in between. Went to test it today, and the max seatheight did come up too short.
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Height 885mm from crank to seat
When I was there to test, I asked them to set an Aeroad in XL to 875mm and the guy came out with an Aeroad in 2XL as the XL couldn't get that far up in saddle height. But if I remember right in 2XL I only had about 1.5cm left in saddle height and as their sizing is in 3cm steps that would mean the XL only goes up to 860mm.
But what is really embarrassing for Canyon is that even they corrected the geometry chart once it is still not correct as the values at least for the big sizes are too big.
I am considering a 2XL, only wondering about the wheelbase - but at the same time maybe it'll feel nice when sprinting, idk. My XL Endurace CF SL has the same wheelbase as an XL Aeroad, and that's a bit twitchy for me when sprinting in the drops.
FuCH wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:51 pmHi, my CFR is size M. The saddle is moved to the front, the stem is at the lowes point.gmarmar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:34 amHi, I'm struggling to find the correct size (182 cm) M or L. Can anyone measure the lengths between:
- middle of the axle and the top of stem
- the nose of the saddle to the middle of the handlebar
Last year I bought canyon Grizl (M) and the size is perfect, but Aeroad is more agressive.
My focus izalco (L) is set:
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem 62 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 60 cm
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem - 56 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 54.5 cm
I've tried Grizl size M as well. I am 178, been riding Giant TCR sized ML and Aeroad in M fits me even better, having the same reach and a bit lower stack. My bikefitter tells the same. I believe you do not need L.
How far is it possible to raise the stem? As described at the site 2cm only?
No more than 2 cm definately. I believe I took 2 thin and 1 thick spacer out, so maybe its even around 1.5 cm. Ultimate has more relaxed geometry btw.gmarmar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:58 pmFuCH wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:51 pmHi, my CFR is size M. The saddle is moved to the front, the stem is at the lowes point.gmarmar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:34 amHi, I'm struggling to find the correct size (182 cm) M or L. Can anyone measure the lengths between:
- middle of the axle and the top of stem
- the nose of the saddle to the middle of the handlebar
Last year I bought canyon Grizl (M) and the size is perfect, but Aeroad is more agressive.
My focus izalco (L) is set:
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem 62 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 60 cm
- distance between the middle of axle and the top of the stem - 56 cm
- nose of the saddle - middle of the handlebar - 54.5 cm
I've tried Grizl size M as well. I am 178, been riding Giant TCR sized ML and Aeroad in M fits me even better, having the same reach and a bit lower stack. My bikefitter tells the same. I believe you do not need L.
How far is it possible to raise the stem? As described at the site 2cm only?
Yes, it does. And the bikes ride and feel differently, you may notice if you try both. Maybe its' about angles idk, but if you scroll all the way down the product geometry chart on Canyon website, you may notice the difference for instance for size M being:
1. BB drop: Aeroad - 70mm, Ultimate (same for Aero and regular one) - 73mm;
2. Effective stack/ Stack+ (vertical distance between the bottom bracket and the hand position): Aeroad - 642mm, Ultimate - 635mm;
3. Effective reach/ Reach+ (horizontal distance between the bottom bracket and the hand position): Aeroad - 563mm, Ultimate - 473mm.
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Has anyone considered (or recommend against) cutting down the unwanted width of the handlebar drops? shave some grams... Happens all the time on MTBs why not Canyon's drops? The clamping and leverage with the T bar should remain unaffected?
that's baked in to the design of MTB bars.. I dont think you have thought of this enough or atleast seen the bars in the flesh.notsoenduro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:21 amHas anyone considered (or recommend against) cutting down the unwanted width of the handlebar drops? shave some grams... Happens all the time on MTBs why not Canyon's drops? The clamping and leverage with the T bar should remain unaffected?
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+1 I believe the more material is left there, the better for the the strength of the bar structure. I read somewhere that the nerrower you go on these the better (nobody was about to make any cuts).spdntrxi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:29 amthat's baked in to the design of MTB bars.. I dont think you have thought of this enough or atleast seen the bars in the flesh.notsoenduro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:21 amHas anyone considered (or recommend against) cutting down the unwanted width of the handlebar drops? shave some grams... Happens all the time on MTBs why not Canyon's drops? The clamping and leverage with the T bar should remain unaffected?
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It's because there is no such difference. Ultimate and Aeroad have identical rech and stack.KalleWirsch wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:26 am9cm in reach? Where should this huge difference come from?
Canyon switched from listing reach+ and stack+ (measured to the tops) to effective reach and effective stack (measured to the hoods) on the new aeroad.
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Sorry, I don´t get it.
You wrote the two bikes have 563mm and 473mm. This is a difference. Then, you say there is no difference? Could you please explain why there is no difference when at the same time the numbers are different by 9cm?
Thanks!
You wrote the two bikes have 563mm and 473mm. This is a difference. Then, you say there is no difference? Could you please explain why there is no difference when at the same time the numbers are different by 9cm?
Thanks!
28c gp5000 str fits the ARC 50mm and 62mm variants without going over the outer width of the rim noticeably, i.e., it looks legit. 30c might be a bit too wide if you care about the looks. TBH, the performance differences between 1600, 1400, and 1100 are marginal, they are all stiff and durable. It is just the lower-tier variants are a bit heavy. If you go for other brands, say, Zipp, you might find Zipp's are softer in corners and the hub durability is trash. For Shimano's, it feels similar to DT's, but I don't like the fact that Shimano's hub is hard to tear down and maintain (it is durable for sure). So, DT's is overall very balanced, and will survive various torture with ease. A better upgrade would be something like a DT240/DT180 hub plus a rim from another brand, a common choice is ENVE.notsoenduro wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:02 amHi Has anyone swapped the factory DTSWISS Arc 1400 or 1600 Wheelset and noticed an improvement to an already incredible bike? I am not getting along with the 25mm tyre width for the front wheel and while I can bump that up to 28-30mm, I've read elsewhere that its not a recommended fit for the front rim given the narrow intenral (20mm) and external (27mm) rim widths. DTSwiss recommends the 25mm as the optimised tyre width. Can you share more on this before I buy wider tyres, or just accept the spec of the wheels is outdated and therefore a wheel upgrade will provide a better result?
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