Aethos Inspired Chinese 6.3kg Build with Quality Chinese Components ( ICAN FL1 ) - listing updated for final build

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zen28150
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by zen28150

I received my frame Ican FL1 yesterday.
I think the bike will be ready to ride on September.
The size of my frame is 56.

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Beancouter
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by Beancouter

Hope you enjoy riding them - as I said in my first post, party of the reason for getting the ICAN was to get the fit sorted on an aethos (which is now bought!).

The ICAN really was great to ride and is now going to get built up for my daughter.

kode54
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by kode54

iantivey wrote:Hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread, but off the back of your post I also bought an ICAN FL-1, adding the one-piece barstem and 0-degree seatpost.

Weights were -
Frame 838g
Forks (uncut) 388g
Bars 346g
Seatpost 151g

Full build is -
Dura Ace 11 speed Di2 9170 shifter, calipers, front mech, rear mech.
Rotor 3D24 Power2Max Type S
BOR 52/36 chainrings
Dura Ace 9000 pedals
YBN SLA110 chain (gold)
ENVE 5.4 rims with Chris King R45 hubs
Pirelli P-Zero Race TLR 28mm tyres
Supacaz Fly Bottle Cages
Tune Speedneedle Saddle

I haven't weighed the full bike yet (need to buy a scale that goes to more than 3kg). I have some FarSports RD270 40mm rims on back order too.
Interesting minus stem with a stack of spacers. Wouldn’t make more sense to get less minus and remove spacers?
-- Factor Ostro VAM gen2 Disc
-- Specialized Aethos Disc
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-- Factor LS Disc

Nixster
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by Nixster

Beancouter wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:03 pm
Hope you enjoy riding them - as I said in my first post, party of the reason for getting the ICAN was to get the fit sorted on an aethos (which is now bought!).

The ICAN really was great to ride and is now going to get built up for my daughter.
Can you compare and contrast the two bikes please?
I'm interested in the Aethos but curious about how much brand and reputation is driving the pricing. With matching geometry it would be great to see what the differences in frame layup make, other than 200g in weight.

iantivey
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Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 5:14 pm

by iantivey

kode54 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:28 am
iantivey wrote:Hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread, but off the back of your post I also bought an ICAN FL-1, adding the one-piece barstem and 0-degree seatpost.

Weights were -
Frame 838g
Forks (uncut) 388g
Bars 346g
Seatpost 151g

Full build is -
Dura Ace 11 speed Di2 9170 shifter, calipers, front mech, rear mech.
Rotor 3D24 Power2Max Type S
BOR 52/36 chainrings
Dura Ace 9000 pedals
YBN SLA110 chain (gold)
ENVE 5.4 rims with Chris King R45 hubs
Pirelli P-Zero Race TLR 28mm tyres
Supacaz Fly Bottle Cages
Tune Speedneedle Saddle

I haven't weighed the full bike yet (need to buy a scale that goes to more than 3kg). I have some FarSports RD270 40mm rims on back order too.
Interesting minus stem with a stack of spacers. Wouldn’t make more sense to get less minus and remove spacers?
It's the "HB22" integrated barstem that came with the bike. I'll have to measure the stem angle (weirdly it's not listed on their website any longer), but I think the top edge of the stem tapering into the flat bar makes it look more negative than it actually is.

There's only one 7.5mm spacer, by the way. The headset cap (if that's what it's called?) it pretty chunky.

erickr
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Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:03 am

by erickr

The T47 BB, full integration and 27.2 seat tube are very compelling to me. What is the BB width? ICAN is telling me 68mm. If that's true my SISL2s may be resurrected:)

Beancouter
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by Beancouter

erickr wrote:The T47 BB, full integration and 27.2 seat tube are very compelling to me. What is the BB width? ICAN is telling me 68mm. If that's true my SISL2s may be resurrected:)
Unfortunately it is 85.5mm - would have used my SISL2 otherwise Image


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Beancouter
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by Beancouter

Nixster wrote:
Beancouter wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:03 pm
Hope you enjoy riding them - as I said in my first post, party of the reason for getting the ICAN was to get the fit sorted on an aethos (which is now bought!).

The ICAN really was great to ride and is now going to get built up for my daughter.
Can you compare and contrast the two bikes please?
I'm interested in the Aethos but curious about how much brand and reputation is driving the pricing. With matching geometry it would be great to see what the differences in frame layup make, other than 200g in weight.
apologies for the delay. The ICAN is a really great frame - If it means anything (clearly not scientific!) racked up a fair number of PBs, so it certainly didn’t slow me down. I can’t measure stiffness but the frame certainly has enough carbon where you need it most (BB, downtube and headtube).

When it comes to the Aethos there is something about the it which is very different to any other bike I have owned - it seems to accelerate up hills (and that isn’t a weight thing, just the way that it rides). It is also quite compliant which is noticeable as the roads in Surrey are dire.

When you compare the 2 frames side by side, in my view, the difference in ride feel is understandable - they are different but that’s not a bad thing.


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kvothe
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Joined: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:25 pm

by kvothe

Thanks Beancouter for all these explanations.m and tips for building a lightweight Fl1
Could you confirm what is the size of the fork ? Od1 or od2 ?
I will post my build as soon as I will receive the frame.

cyclysa
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Location: Barcelona

by cyclysa

Beancouter wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:15 am
The only annoying thing with own mold, is that I can’t get a direct mount for the rear derailleur !
Yeah this is something I asked Joe about regarding the Sohtea, he said they don't list the direct mount part on the site but if you message with the order he'll include it. From the images I suspect for the Sohtea looks like its the Aethos hanger itself.

Did a bit of searching and for this Ican FL1 it looks like it could be based on a Colnago C64 hanger
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Very tempted to follow in similar footsteps with the Sohtea though could also consider buying a used Aethos with some of the non s-works models being in the range of 2700-5500 EUR (2250-4500 GBP) depending on groupset.

Antoine22
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by Antoine22

Any update of new people having built this frame ?

jabes1107
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Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:49 am

by jabes1107

Antoine22 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:26 am
Any update of new people having built this frame ?
I've not built it yet, but I did receive an ICAN FL1 a few weeks ago.

Size 52 in chameleon 19818C paint

Weights:
Frame including various clamps, bolts, hangers - 875g
Uncut fork - 362g
Seatpost + clamp - 221g
Headset and compression plug - 120g
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Marioooouzd
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Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:53 am

by Marioooouzd

Hi, did you finish your bike ? Any review of the frameset ? I'm considering the FL1, Winspace SLC 3 and Elves Vanyar. Still I didn't decide and having compared all three, the winspace is the lightest. I'm quite tall - 187 cm, so the size 58.

Marioooouzd
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by Marioooouzd

Hi, any update ?

jabes1107
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by jabes1107

No update on my build unfortunately. Still awaiting stem/handlebar and cranks.

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