2024 product release rumors

[cleanneon98]

Interesting sure, useful I'm personally not sure if all you are getting is post-ride data and not something you can use real-time. I can use real-time power and HR to pace my efforts (even though I could do without them, just not as well) but knowing real-time if i'm riding into a head or a tailwind provides no additional benefit outide of just looking around, especially since the wind sensor is apparently not even that accurate. I'm not going to adjust my efforts based on whether it tells me I have a 5 vs 7mph headwind. And in a race scenario riding in a pack, you're definitely not going to get any useful data with all the drafting going on. I think anyone strategizing for a race would benefit more from using the windfinder website to determine which way things will be blowing at a particular time vs using a semi-accurate sensor that can't give you wind direction

[ronanmclaughlin]

If you tried to use it as an aero sensor, most likely all you wold get is garbage data, considering even dedicated aero sensors are far from foolproof

Yeah, I've covered this in my review, as well as assessing how accurate the wind speed from Ace is
https://escapecollective.com/wahoo-elem ... there-yet/

I think we need to get away from the concept of an "aero" sensor here. If we can see this as a general wind intensity / direction grader (like the temp gauge), there's some value there when comparing efforts and Strava KOMs. Maybe it'd be helpful in estimating route duration.

This was exactly my take in the article and I laid out why

[LedZeppelin007]

I do wish that Wahoo would find a way to calculate wind direction. As it stands, it’s still giving you an effective “opposing force” measurement which can be extremely useful. This will be particularly helpful for breakaway riders or solo riders who can see when the data field goes red so that they can take a more aero position.

I think Ray’s review was too harsh, but it is very irritating that this computer isn’t a little more full formed at launch. The potential is there for a game-changing unit. Whether Wahoo are willing to make that happen will have to be seen.

[cajer]

I do wish that Wahoo would find a way to calculate wind direction. As it stands, it’s still giving you an effective “opposing force” measurement which can be extremely useful. This will be particularly helpful for breakaway riders or solo riders who can see when the data field goes red so that they can take a more aero position.

I think Ray’s review was too harsh, but it is very irritating that this computer isn’t a little more full formed at launch. The potential is there for a game-changing unit. Whether Wahoo are willing to make that happen will have to be seen.

At minimum you need two wind speed sensors to determine yaw angles. With only one it's impossible, so the head unit will never be able to do so

[cleanneon98]

I think breakaway riders tend to always take the most aero position they can anyway, especially when they feel a headwind. If they can't feel the headwind, its probably not strong enough to be a determining factor in their breakaway

[LedZeppelin007]

I do wish that Wahoo would find a way to calculate wind direction. As it stands, it’s still giving you an effective “opposing force” measurement which can be extremely useful. This will be particularly helpful for breakaway riders or solo riders who can see when the data field goes red so that they can take a more aero position.

I think Ray’s review was too harsh, but it is very irritating that this computer isn’t a little more full formed at launch. The potential is there for a game-changing unit. Whether Wahoo are willing to make that happen will have to be seen.

At minimum you need two wind speed sensors to determine yaw angles. With only one it's impossible, so the head unit will never be able to do so

I don’t think any of the common aero sensors on the market have multiple wind sensors and yet they are able to determine wind yaw.


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[CampagYOLO]

As a long time Wahoo ELEMNT user I will really miss the LEDs. I found them incredibly useful, particularly when training in low light in winter. With the LEDs it was very easy to understand the zone you are riding in, power or HR.

I still hope Wahoo come out with an upgraded ROAM or BOLT, this product is far to big and over-specified for me.

Likewise. If you've got the map up as I often do, the lights are great to let me know what zone I'm riding in. They're also very quick to reference, quicker than a number and working it out for myself!

[LedZeppelin007]

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[cajer]

I do wish that Wahoo would find a way to calculate wind direction. As it stands, it’s still giving you an effective “opposing force” measurement which can be extremely useful. This will be particularly helpful for breakaway riders or solo riders who can see when the data field goes red so that they can take a more aero position.

I think Ray’s review was too harsh, but it is very irritating that this computer isn’t a little more full formed at launch. The potential is there for a game-changing unit. Whether Wahoo are willing to make that happen will have to be seen.

At minimum you need two wind speed sensors to determine yaw angles. With only one it's impossible, so the head unit will never be able to do so

I don’t think any of the common aero sensors on the market have multiple wind sensors and yet they are able to determine wind yaw.


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They all do, they have at least two ports that lead into two seperate sensors.

[Nereth]

This one might have that as well, but one will be measuring in the direction of travel, the other will be measuring omnidirectionally so you can check the difference (just like a planes pitot tube setup.)

Neither is set up to provide any off axis data. In fact they should be designed specifically to exclude that.

[cajer]

Based on the performance of that rest of the design I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a single sensor is the direction of travel.

[toxin]

From the look of social media, it seems the Quick Pro ER:One is in the middle of release in china https://v.douyin.com/iD32q7vb/

[EddyTwerckx]

From the look of social media, it seems the Quick Pro ER:One is in the middle of release in china https://v.douyin.com/iD32q7vb/

Really like the look of this.

[wheelsONfire]

Great, more Asian brands will soon force the prices down or the big brands will be in deep recess. The inflated prices for the premium framesets are pure bogus. The prices from low grade to high grade isn't near what the asking price is.

[sumant28]

The new Parlee Ouray has now been revealed, at least visually. The full details will be released at Sea Otter. Picture is a screen grab from their teaser video on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5qooRuxMb7/

It is pretty clearly a replacement for the Altum, so should be lightweight and have relatively relaxed geometry. Major changes from the Altum:
- fully integrated cable routing. Video shows a bike using the Pro Vibe Evo, we'll see if there are options with the two piece Parlee system that is offered on some specs of the RZ7
- uses SRAM UDH (with Dura-Ace on the reveal bike)
- back to a regular seatpost collar instead of the integrated wedge clamp
- Fully designed for disc brakes, and therefore lacks the seat-stay bridge that was on all Altum models. This also likely means increased tire clearance.
- No hump at the top tube/head tube junction. Most will probably like this, although now it has no visual distinction from any of the other endurance bikes out there.
- Down tube looks to have some aero shaping borrowed from the RZ7, show best in this picture: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5n0EhoBeyK/

So the big things left to learn are weight, geometry, tire clearance, and of course price.

I have some questions about the Parlee Ouray. I don't know how far the custom options go but I want to see if this is possible. First of all can I get fender/mudguard mounts like on the Enve Melee? Second can I get a 27.2 round seatpost? Or maybe an adapter that would allow for one