Finally a good cockpit. BMC ICS Carbon Aero.

[208]

Finally a flared one piece cockpit with narrow tops and wide drops. Gonna wait until Enve comes out with theirs and then pick one up. All stem lengths (80-140) have the same tops c-c (36) and drops c-c (42).

Link here:
https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/ics

Some copy pasta of details here:
ICS Carbon Aero features the same width on all available dimensions:
• 360 mm at the hoods for aerodynamic efficiency
• 420 mm at the drops for perfect control

Bar Facts and Figures
Reach: 72.5mm
Drop: 135mm
Flare 12.5°
Weight 315g
Stem angle -15°
Stem legnth 80-140

[harblhat]

Any good images of the cable exit at the base of the stem? Will be interesting to see how it cooperates with other brand bikes.

[208]

Any good images of the cable exit at the base of the stem? Will be interesting to see how it cooperates with other brand bikes.

not that I've found yet, definitely gotta sus that out

[rowdyyy]

It's the perfect cockpit in my opinion. Hopefully it will be easy to retrofit it to the cheaper models.

[Upcountry]

If this is truly a different offering than the ICS setup they spec on their road bikes with D shaped steerers, then it looks like a great option. But they certainly haven't made it clear how "ICS for All" it is, and make no claims that its intended for other brands...

[guanxi]

Seems like it will only work with d-shaped steerer tubes. Cables cannot exit anywhere besides at the fork. Image from bike24

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[toxin]

Ooh that's shit

[208]

Waiting for enve's cockpit, then. FFS

[aeroisnteverything]

Are we sure about this square steerer hypothesis? On parts schematic, looks like there is an internal sleeve for installation on the d-shaped steerer (presumably for the new BMC teammachine R), but otherwise the stem is round inside?

[StevieB]

Are we sure about this square steerer hypothesis? On parts schematic, looks like there is an internal sleeve for installation on the d-shaped steerer (presumably for the new BMC teammachine R), but otherwise the stem is round inside?

Stem is round internally; they use wedges to mate to the flat sided steerer. See https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/media/d ... Manual.pdf.

[Mr.Gib]

Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.

[aeroisnteverything]

Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.

Well - Roval Rapide reach is 75 mm and some of that extra reach is negated by the fact that the bars have a forward sweep, so the section where your forearms would rest is perhaps the same.

Vision Metron reach is 80mm, but again, the bars have 10 degree forward sweep - visiby more than Roval.

EXS Aerover reach is 70mm in compact version, and no forward sweep.

Mayble only Enve has meaningfully longer reach at 79mm.

[Edopizzo]

Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.

Agree! That's why I have the Pro aero vibe pursuit with 102mm reach and 36 hoods 40 drops. This BMC bar is maybe even a bit too wide ad the drops and it might be easy to tangle in a peloton if holding from the hoods

[wheelsONfire]

Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.

Agree! That's why I have the Pro aero vibe pursuit with 102mm reach and 36 hoods 40 drops. This BMC bar is maybe even a bit too wide ad the drops and it might be easy to tangle in a peloton if holding from the hoods

May i ask, do you have a picture where you have these bars, like a side view picture?
I just want to know how they are if you have the top section horizontal. The 36 size, if you measure the drop from center at the top to the center at the bar tape plu hole, how much is the drop?

[Edopizzo]

I will take a picture later and add it in this reply