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LanceLegstrong
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by LanceLegstrong on Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:06 pm
Mr.Gib wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:25 pm
Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.
I prefer the shorter reach because I can then get a longer stem. The tops horizontally are then further away and I'm less likely to hit my knees when out of the saddle sprinting or climbing.
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justillo28
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by justillo28 on Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:46 am
LanceLegstrong wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:06 pm
Mr.Gib wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:25 pm
Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.
I prefer the shorter reach because I can then get a longer stem. The tops horizontally are then further away and I'm less likely to hit my knees when out of the saddle sprinting or climbing.
This is the question
a little more handlebar reach, and better support for the forearms, or a slightly longer stem and avoiding impact with the knees when you sprint
I'm wondering which is the best solution
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Edopizzo
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by Edopizzo on Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:21 pm
wheelsONfire wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 am
Edopizzo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:56 am
Mr.Gib wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:25 pm
Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.
Agree! That's why I have the Pro aero vibe pursuit with 102mm reach and 36 hoods 40 drops. This BMC bar is maybe even a bit too wide ad the drops and it might be easy to tangle in a peloton if holding from the hoods
May i ask, do you have a picture where you have these bars, like a side view picture?
I just want to know how they are if you have the top section horizontal. The 36 size, if you measure the drop from center at the top to the center at the bar tape plu hole, how much is the drop?
Sorry for being late, I forgot.
Here is the picture
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RypWivqKzR2Kjj6b9, the measurement is 13cm roughly
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handler
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by handler on Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:32 pm
Do anyone know if these can be mounted on non-BMC bikes as long as they have the cables routed thorugh the fork/headset? Looking for a narrow and long handlebar for the Factor Ostro.
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harblhat
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by harblhat on Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:43 pm
I don't know for a fact, but photos show the cables can only exit through the steerer - there are no other holes. So the cables have to be routed through the headset. The bar looks like it mounts with an adapter/reducer to a 1 1/8" as well. I think the main challenge would be a headset cover/transition spacer for a non-BMC.
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razorree
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by razorree on Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:51 pm
can you use different stem+handlebar combo which routes cables under your stem (or inside?) ?
like FSA SMR or Specialized (which has cable under stem)
or the problem is not round/proprietary steering tube ?
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apaz
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by apaz on Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:52 pm
handler wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:32 pm
Do anyone know if these can be mounted on non-BMC bikes as long as they have the cables routed thorugh the fork/headset? Looking for a narrow and long handlebar for the Factor Ostro.
The hoses exit through the back of the stem so they're setup for the D-shaped tube of the Ostro. The bottom of the stem appears to be flat so that should mate well with the Ostro top cap, but if you use spacers you may need to file off the locator pin (I can't recall if they're installed with the pin up or down). Assuming BMC uses the same steerer diameter then this should just work. The transition from the Ostro stack to the BMC might not look perfect, but it would be functional.
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proffate
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by proffate on Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:26 pm
justillo28 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:46 am
LanceLegstrong wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:06 pm
Mr.Gib wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:25 pm
Don't like the short reach - 72.5mm. Reduces the benefit of the flat tops as a forearm rest. The shorter the reach, the more the triceps have to work. IMO 80 - 90mm, even 100mm would be better, particularely given the assumed target market. I also find that the further up my forearm the contact, the more comfortable it is - just more padding at that part of my arm. Down by the wrist is a bit too boney.
I prefer the shorter reach because I can then get a longer stem. The tops horizontally are then further away and I'm less likely to hit my knees when out of the saddle sprinting or climbing.
This is the question
a little more handlebar reach, and better support for the forearms, or a slightly longer stem and avoiding impact with the knees when you sprint
I'm wondering which is the best solution
It is technically possible to have both if the tops have backsweep. Coefficient bars do this and madone barstem to a lesser extent.
Impact with knees is a showstopper for me, and I prefer the shortest reach where that doesn't happen. Also a higher stack helps a little with knee clearance. You can still get low with a slightly higher stack by just bending your elbows a little.
As far as forearm boniness -- Vic campanaerts had a video about how he set up his bars, with a double or triple layer of bar tape just where the wrists rest. Seems reasonable imo.
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LanceLegstrong
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by LanceLegstrong on Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:33 pm
apaz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:52 pm
handler wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:32 pm
Do anyone know if these can be mounted on non-BMC bikes as long as they have the cables routed thorugh the fork/headset? Looking for a narrow and long handlebar for the Factor Ostro.
The hoses exit through the back of the stem so they're setup for the D-shaped tube of the Ostro. The bottom of the stem appears to be flat so that should mate well with the Ostro top cap, but if you use spacers you may need to file off the locator pin (I can't recall if they're installed with the pin up or down). Assuming BMC uses the same steerer diameter then this should just work. The transition from the Ostro stack to the BMC might not look perfect, but it would be functional.
I’m wondering if you could use this with the SuperSix Delta steerer. Seems like it would work for the cables. The spacers might another story.
Cannondale SuperSix Evo gen 4
Specialized Crux
Specialized Epic 8