2024 Giant Defy

[wheelbuilder]

I used to have many bikes as I am crazy and buying and selling bikes way too much. With my body proportions having longer legs and shorter torso and hands than average for my body height I struggled on some race bikes being too low and long for me.
Yet I was not happy with endurance bikes:( I exchanged my Canyon Endurace with my friends Ultimate on the same ride. Very similar bikes similar weight and the Ultimate was noticeably more responsive, every little effort was awarded by acceleration. I also had the latest Trek Domane SLR. That bike looked good, perfect frame proportions even in size 56, it was so comfortable. I was happy riding it on flats and down the hill. Up the hill it was not slow but again it lacked the snappiness. It was 7.4 kgs so not heavy. Going uphill with the steady tempo was ok but once you stand into the pedals you make 2 or 3 rotations and sit down again because the bike just goes the same...of course if you go from 250 watts to 350 watts you will notice it but from 250 to 280, that little effort is somehow absorbed in the bike:) at least it gives you that feeling. The feeling climbing standing is like pulling the bike behind you. My current Supersix is slightly more snappy and that's great. The bike feels like being under you not behind you...
Whenever I read a review of a new endurance superbike it gives the impression that it is now snappy as race bikes but that's not my experience so far. Maybe Cervelo Caledonia 5 was close. Would be interesting to know about Defy. But as its geometry is quite close to Supersix it might be better to have Supersix (comfortable, one of the best aero, lighter...) unless you need gravel clearance...
Of course some race bikes are not good for the hobby rider. From my experience Trek Emonda is such a bike. It will allow you to have 4 or 5cm of spacers but its for is quite steep, its wheelbase quite short, it is really meant for low and long cockpit. And it is quite a harsh riding bike. Climbs great but overall it is really better for experienced riders.

No opinion on the technical stance of your post, but must say your description of a bike responding to different inputs is one of the best I've ever read. The 250-280 power input and the coinciding response was really good.

[QuackMD]

Is anyone on the forum perhaps a proud owner of a 2024 Defy Advanced (non-pro) and willing to measure the headset dust cover diameter?

[picklerick]

[TwiggyForest]

Beautiful, more purple than I was expecting.

[Drollic]

It continually astounds me; all the 'wannabe pros' buying & riding race bikes which are unsuited to your average rider. Whereas Endurance bikes designed for the same rider, don't get the same interest.......
It's laughable really.....(I take it most haven't watched 'Bikefit James' on You Tube.

What do you mean by unsuited? Do you mean that the geometry of a "race bike" is wrong for the "average rider"? Too long and low? But if the bike fits, I am struggling to come up with some other way that a race bike might be unsuited, assuming of course that it is being used on the road.

And what are "wannabe pros"? If they are people participating in local racing, a race bike would make the most sense would it not? Or do you just mean people that were sold bikes that don't fit? I think that would qualify them as just uninformed and/or poorly served by the industry.

While I am curious about all bikes, it's the most advanced, go fast designs that really get my attention. As for the Defy, that photo above is a classic example of a bike aesthetic that I dislike. The slope of the top tube, the hoods higher than the saddle, the whole thing just looks like it's going uphill no matter the terrain. I know it's exagerated with the small frame size, but I just wouldn't be happy riding something like that unless I couldn't fit anything else. Maybe this attitude explains the lack of attention, though here I am giving the Defy (more) attention.

This Defy geometry is actually much in line with Cannondale supersix. For a size 54, the supersix is taller (taking into account the Defy uses a -10° stem) and just some 3mm longer.

A tarmac is a bit more aggressive. Yet... something 10mm spacers would easily equalize.

The propel or scott foil... thats another story. Really aggressive.

I guess more than the geometry, the bikes pros use really do sell way better.

I believe it's the reach that is different compared to race bikes despite having a fairly agressive stack for an endurance bike given the stem at -10. The cannondale is deceptive as the top spec momo bars have a reach of 80mm, which cancels out the shorter reach of the frame itself. The other stems simply don't look right with the frame. Giant specs I believe 72mm carbon bars - short. On an M/l at 384mm with 72mm compared with the ss in 56 at 389mm and 80mm this is a big difference. It's much more inline with a race bike around 393mm with more common 76mm.

It's a shame more manufacturers aren't offering bikes around 575-580 stack and 385-390 reach in 56s to bridge the gap between race bikes and endurance.

[Mithrandir]

Beautiful, more purple than I was expecting.

This is frameset only option, right?
I can't see Ultegra builds with this color scheme.

P.S. I love the color.

[daninplymouth]

Can anyone confirm the standard spacer stack height on the 2024 defy? Been looking online and can only find 1 reference which says 50mm.
Keep looking at this and think this bike would suit me really well so trying to check a few details out

[hannawald]

Looking at the picture above it looks like 5cm plus 5mm headset cover

[wahla21]

Can anyone confirm the standard spacer stack height on the 2024 defy? Been looking online and can only find 1 reference which says 50mm.
Keep looking at this and think this bike would suit me really well so trying to check a few details out

Can confirm my 2024 Pro 0 has 50mm

[daninplymouth]

Can anyone confirm the standard spacer stack height on the 2024 defy? Been looking online and can only find 1 reference which says 50mm.
Keep looking at this and think this bike would suit me really well so trying to check a few details out

Can confirm my 2024 Pro 0 has 50mm

Thank you

[Duke890r]

In Europe there is no option frameset only. Propel and tcr can be obtained as frameset only.
Hopefully next year this option will also become available in Europe.
I like to build my bikes myself and the colours of the complete bikes are not the fanciest.
The white TCR frameset is stunning but too extreme for me.

[Sockman]

Still a bit of a work in progress with the bar and stem (going narrower and longer), but I just put the road wheels back on for fun.

Dancing Shoes

[JMOS]

In Europe there is no option frameset only. Propel and tcr can be obtained as frameset only.
Hopefully next year this option will also become available in Europe.
I like to build my bikes myself and the colours of the complete bikes are not the fanciest.
The white TCR frameset is stunning but too extreme for me.

That one looks great
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/de/defy- ... enset-2025

[Duke890r]

That frameset looks awesome. Curious when they become available.

[JMOS]

Could anyone who has a 2024 defy measure the actual (Giant says there is room for 40mm tires max) clearance at the BB area?

Thanks!