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garbageman
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by garbageman

The team replica and Rival complete bikes and the Pro frameset apparently went up for pre-sale on the US site yesterday and sold out within hours. Looks like XS frames were not offered.
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/roa ... -in-hours/
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... eam-355688
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... ike-355770
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... kit-356409

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nullptr
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by nullptr

I'm considering buying the frameset (EU). I already have SRAM Red groupset ready, that I've got extremely cheap. But I'm still not sure about the DUB vs. BB86 issue. Can anyone here recommend a bottom bracket?

treyxt
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by treyxt

garbageman wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:41 pm
The team replica and Rival complete bikes and the Pro frameset apparently went up for pre-sale on the US site yesterday and sold out within hours. Looks like XS frames were not offered.
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/roa ... -in-hours/
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... eam-355688
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... ike-355770
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... kit-356409
$11k? I thought this was supposed to be the cheapest super-bike out there.
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TheBelgian
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by TheBelgian

I wonder if they do with this what they do with a lot of their products. Bring other brands in the store (as they collaborated with external companies for this one, e.g. wheels and handlebars), see if it sells and next thing you know, no more other brand and they release a similar product made by their own brand.

HBike
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by HBike

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6JlpISNQrK ... _copy_link
Nice shot from today's Tour de Romandie with two AG2R riders up front:
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It nicely illustrates the imact of the frame size on cd*A ;-)

TwiggyForest
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by TwiggyForest

treyxt wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:13 pm
garbageman wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:41 pm
The team replica and Rival complete bikes and the Pro frameset apparently went up for pre-sale on the US site yesterday and sold out within hours. Looks like XS frames were not offered.
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/roa ... -in-hours/
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... eam-355688
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... ike-355770
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... kit-356409
$11k? I thought this was supposed to be the cheapest super-bike out there.
Still $3k cheaper than a similar level Tarmac which is not nothing.

toxin
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by toxin

it's $1.5k cheaper in eu, I guess that's the usa logistics tax, pricey and you're stuck with a useless powermeter, canyon is a much better choice in this case

Noctiluxx
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by Noctiluxx

TwiggyForest wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:04 pm
treyxt wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:13 pm
garbageman wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:41 pm
The team replica and Rival complete bikes and the Pro frameset apparently went up for pre-sale on the US site yesterday and sold out within hours. Looks like XS frames were not offered.
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/roa ... -in-hours/
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... eam-355688
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... ike-355770
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... kit-356409
$11k? I thought this was supposed to be the cheapest super-bike out there.
Still $3k cheaper than a similar level Tarmac which is not nothing.
Still more than the Aeroad, Ostro Vam II, and some other high end bikes in the $11-$12,500 that easily could be negotiated down with their local dealers.
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toxin
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by toxin

Obviously it's a rider sponsored by van rysel, but good insight into development process

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C36
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by C36

[YouTube][/YouTube]For once EU is not penalized but the exchange rate :) but yes the US price seems abnormally high particularly considering the EU prices are all taxes included...

On another note, the US page show the RCR frame at 3000$, keeping the same USD / EUR ratio they have that could put the frame around 2500eur (and you will get like 100 or 15euro of cash back) and that might be the real steal.

https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... rce=search

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garbageman
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by garbageman

There are a few RCR Pro team replica complete bikes available on the US Decathlon site right now in M, L, XL - 1, 2, and 2 respectively at the time of posting.
No framesets unfortunately. I heard they would be available in July, but my source also said there wouldn't be more of the team bikes - maybe these are returns?
https://www.decathlon.com/products/van- ... eam-355688

moistcamel
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by moistcamel

Is there info about the carbon they use for the frame ?
I'm curious of the difference between the pro and non pro frame.

I'm thinking of trying the bike since they have a 365 day return policy.
Also many people on the van rysel fb group seems to have had chain slips which destroyed the frame so chainstay would be mandatory for this i guess.

I compared a lot of build around and for the 4800€ of the sram force built there is nothing that come close with good wheels and a power meter.
I'm just worried of decathlon not delivering carbon quality wise

toxin
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by toxin

obviously has to be a slightly different layup between versions. it's not like decathlon are making the frames, they're using a chinese OEM like almost everyone else

garbageman
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by garbageman

toxin wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:42 pm
obviously has to be a slightly different layup between versions. it's not like decathlon are making the frames, they're using a chinese OEM like almost everyone else
I've read the frames are made in Vietnam.

moistcamel
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by moistcamel

I mean its made in vietnam but surely they designed them and have recommandations regarding how to arrange carbon no ?

Also i'm curious in switzerland the rcr pro ultegra di2 has Swiss Side Hadron² 500 Classic but in france the same model has shimano Ultegra C36 wheels which are 150g lighter. Which one are the best tho ? The swiss side are aero and seems just superior

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