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spartan wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:21 am
i predict this bike will match exceed the over engineered colnago. most aero gains is the head tube / bar/ wheel.

I bet the Colnago will be considerably more compliant on rough roads such as during the spring classics. Riser bars make sense for cleaning up airflow over the bars. There is no spacer stack or 40mm worth of stem stack height to deal with. The RCR-F will be easier to personalize with personal bar/stem choices, but the Colnago will be legitimately fast for the same reasons why the S5 is very fast at 0deg yaw.

But yes, in practical terms I'd choose the RCR-F too.

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Will they release a new bike every year?
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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:58 am
I bet the Colnago will be considerably more compliant on rough roads such as during the spring classics. Riser bars make sense for cleaning up airflow over the bars. There is no spacer stack or 40mm worth of stem stack height to deal with. The RCR-F will be easier to personalize with personal bar/stem choices, but the Colnago will be legitimately fast for the same reasons why the S5 is very fast at 0deg yaw.

But yes, in practical terms I'd choose the RCR-F too.
Very nice summary. I'd add that it also might show the different agendas of the two manufacturers: Colnago basically wanted to make something special, which would also make Pogacar as fast as they can. Meanwhile Decathlon/Van Rysel want to reach as broad a customer base they can, so it makes perfect sense to go more conventional but also offer a more adaptable platform.

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I wonder if Van Rysel are looking to sell to the end customer in all earnest, given how hard the RCR Pro has been to come by so far.

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by NotYou

I still hope they just got overwhelmed by the demand for their first high end road bike and the second attempt turns out better

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by alanyu

Guess what are compared here :D
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alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:34 am
Guess what are compared here :D
RCR-F, SystemSix and Venge. :D

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bmrk wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:45 am
alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:34 am
Guess what are compared here :D
RCR-F, SystemSix and Venge. :D
Close. Two are correct :D

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alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:34 am
Guess what are compared here :D
RCR-F vs RCR vs Venge

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I love it. simple yet (most likely) functional. doesn't try to reinvent the wheel only for the sake of it, or some marketing purposes. if it's indeed faster than RCR (has to be) it can beat the Aeroad or S5 - after all RCR is 207W, better than some dedicated aero bikes.

and you'll be able to get two for the price of one Colnago...

the only problem I have with Deca... Van Rysel is the brand name itself. I'd rather it was just Decathlon, this name theyve chosen has some fake dutch vibes that don't really stand for anything. and it's the first "wallmart bike" by far; no heritage whatsoever, no ex pros in credentials, just pure engineering with what seems like a random name attached. probably it's just a question of getting used to it; after all they're sort of new to the performance bike market. and they're making their entry with a bang :thumbup:
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jayjay wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:11 pm
alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:34 am
Guess what are compared here :D
RCR-F vs RCR vs Venge
GJ :wink:

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tymon_tm wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:39 pm
the only problem I have with Deca... Van Rysel is the brand name itself. I'd rather it was just Decathlon, this name theyve chosen has some fake dutch vibes that don't really stand for anything. and it's the first "wallmart bike" by far; no heritage whatsoever, no ex pros in credentials, just pure engineering with what seems like a random name attached. probably it's just a question of getting used to it; after all they're sort of new to the performance bike market. and they're making their entry with a bang :thumbup:
The fun fact is that they literally have their development offices of their cycling department in Lille, which is where Van Rysel comes from: dutch for 'from Lille'. It doesn't get much more authentic than that these days

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alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:46 pm
jayjay wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:11 pm
alanyu wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:34 am
Guess what are compared here :D
RCR-F vs RCR vs Venge
GJ :wink:

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NotYou wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:50 pm
tymon_tm wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:39 pm
the only problem I have with Deca... Van Rysel is the brand name itself. I'd rather it was just Decathlon, this name theyve chosen has some fake dutch vibes that don't really stand for anything. and it's the first "wallmart bike" by far; no heritage whatsoever, no ex pros in credentials, just pure engineering with what seems like a random name attached. probably it's just a question of getting used to it; after all they're sort of new to the performance bike market. and they're making their entry with a bang :thumbup:
The fun fact is that they literally have their development offices of their cycling department in Lille, which is where Van Rysel comes from: dutch for 'from Lille'. It doesn't get much more authentic than that these days
well, that's a suprise. maybe they could marlet it a bit more, cause apart from the Dutch no one else would know...
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