Van Rysel 2023

[alanyu]

Guess what are compared here

RCR-F vs RCR vs Venge

GJ

We can see the filename too…

AHhhh I can't see through my phone

[BernieMoves]

There's 4 colors and a rather prominent nose in the picture - did you sneak an SL8 in there too?

[alanyu]

There is no "nose". SL8 nose, which shirnks around upper bearing, is way uglier than venge protrude headtube, which nearly keeps a straight line.

[toxin]

Why did they have to keep geo the same as rcr damn it. Bet there won't be a zero offset post available for this one either

[Renne]

I love it. simple yet (most likely) functional. doesn't try to reinvent the wheel only for the sake of it, or some marketing purposes. if it's indeed faster than RCR (has to be) it can beat the Aeroad or S5 - after all RCR is 207W, better than some dedicated aero bikes.

and you'll be able to get two for the price of one Colnago...

the only problem I have with Deca... Van Rysel is the brand name itself. I'd rather it was just Decathlon, this name theyve chosen has some fake dutch vibes that don't really stand for anything. and it's the first "wallmart bike" by far; no heritage whatsoever, no ex pros in credentials, just pure engineering with what seems like a random name attached. probably it's just a question of getting used to it; after all they're sort of new to the performance bike market. and they're making their entry with a bang

Van Rysel is Dutch/Flemish for from Lille (just with Rysel written with y instead of ij as in Rijsel, I guess to still slightly destinguish themselfs from the city), where they are based. Lille/Rijsel is called the capital of French Flanders/Frans Vlaanderen. As Flanders is very well known internationally for it's bike racing and French Flanders is connected to races like Paris-Roubaix, I wouldn't exactly say it's a brand name that "doesn't stand for anything".
And as Flanders is a Belgian region (that runs into France) I would kindly ask you not to call it Dutch please. As a Belgian I can tell you that's a bit of a sore subject

[tymon_tm]

obviosuly now when you've explained this Van Rysel brand name makes perfect sense, and even sounds nice lol. but again - why don't they communicate it clearly?

Flanders is known as region to some, that's true (whether they/us can point it on a map that's another issue though) but the language and Flemish/Dutch proper nouns are not. so - again - just explain it dear Decathlon. it wouldn't hurt, would it

[jo.k]

Just here to say that only one day ago I had the exact same sentiments as tymon_tm regarding the brand name, and never knew that Lille vas called Rijsel/Rysel! Is this common knowledge, like, anywhere outside Flanders?

Have gone from brand sceptic to full blown fan in just a day, wow

[Requiem84]

Just here to say that only one day ago I had the exact same sentiments as tymon_tm regarding the brand name, and never knew that Lille vas called Rijsel/Rysel! Is this common knowledge, like, anywhere outside Flanders?

Have gone from brand sceptic to full blown fan in just a day, wow

I'm Dutch and I didn't know this to be honest. Don't beat yourself up for not knowing ... .

And indeed, I think it's a bit of a sign for Decathlon that they need some proper branding experts to explain their branding much better to the outside world. Nevertheless, the starting point is a name with meaning and it seems they have that covered.

[Renne]

https://www.vanryselcycling.com/about-v ... e-vanrysel

Has anybody ever visited their website? They give the entire explanation there and I've heard them say it in literally every single one of their promo videos and interviews. Being Flemish myself, so knowing this already beforehand, I really noticed this because it started to annoy me (as in each time I heard it again in my mind I went "we know already djeez"). But apparently there is still a large majority that hasn't heard the story

[fizzaz]

I just want them to tell me when I can buy the new thing.

[Arph]

I agree with Renne, the brand name explanation has been widely shared by Décathlon.

Then in France no one knows that Lille is called Rijsel in Flemish / Dutch, because it's not natively spoken in France (not at all). And I assume even Flemish people know Lille as "Lille", because that how it's called in French (not like the Belgian cities that have both a French and Dutch name, both used). You only see "Rijsel" on road signs in Belgium, because they are bilingual.

[jo.k]

No Decathlon presence in Norway, so I haven't been exposed to that ...

The name always sounded faux dutch to me, don't know why. Like it was invented for the american marked to sound flemish, like Häagen-Dazs ice cream

[macwatt]

https://youtu.be/JAuO8eVWrKk?si=SZcA31lVSQwzd9cy

I doubt it will weigh 7.5kg I would have guessed nearer 8kg fully loaded with pedals

[Renne]

I agree with Renne, the brand name explanation has been widely shared by Décathlon.

Then in France no one knows that Lille is called Rijsel in Flemish / Dutch, because it's not natively spoken in France (not at all). And I assume even Flemish people know Lille as "Lille", because that how it's called in French (not like the Belgian cities that have both a French and Dutch name, both used). You only see "Rijsel" on road signs in Belgium, because they are bilingual.

I'm still surprised how many people here call it Rijsel actually. Then again many Flemish people will still use the Flemish translation for Belgian towns and cities in the Walloon part of the country (Mons = Bergen, Liege = Luik, Bastogne = Bastenaken, Namur = Namen,...). And don't get me started about our capitol Brussels (Bruxelles/Brussel) where every little town, district, municipality,...has a name in both Dutch and French (Elsene/Ixelles, Oudergem/Auderghem, Sint-Agatha-Berchem/Berchem-Sainte-Agethe, Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe/Woluwe-Saint-Lambert,....).
Funny little tidbit, we actually also have a town called Lille in the Antwerp region of Flanders. Pronounced differently it's written the same.
And believe it or not but in the North of France there are still some people who speak a weird French Flemish accent.

[Renne]

I just want them to tell me when I can buy the new thing.

Second that. Hopefully it won't be like the RCR this year...