Aero bottle - Worth it?
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Expecting my 795 RS soon, and thinking if it really pays off putting a couple of aero bottles on it.
Been reading awfull stuff about Elite Chrono's and the very few things I can read about Nex-Gen are not bad, but it seems that they only sell in US, which is a bummer to European customers due to customs.
Do you consider aero bottles to be a worthwhile investment in a aero bike like the 795, or am I pushing things too far?
Been reading awfull stuff about Elite Chrono's and the very few things I can read about Nex-Gen are not bad, but it seems that they only sell in US, which is a bummer to European customers due to customs.
Do you consider aero bottles to be a worthwhile investment in a aero bike like the 795, or am I pushing things too far?
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They are annoying to hold and put back in the cage. It also means not being able to take hand-ups in feed zones.
And if you’re not racing, then it really makes no difference.
And if you’re not racing, then it really makes no difference.
Yes! You're probably right!TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:59 pmThey are annoying to hold and put back in the cage. It also means not being able to take hand-ups in feed zones.
And if you’re not racing, then it really makes no difference.
only on a TT bike in a TT race
The insulation is non-existent and you have to have little ice cubes if you want to put some in (Elite bottle)
The insulation is non-existent and you have to have little ice cubes if you want to put some in (Elite bottle)
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I'm feeling that they really are too messy for so little gain. Thanks for pointing yet another downer. Putting regular bottles then!
BMC has done a good job of integrating cages in their TeamMachine for regular bottles. Just wish something like that made to every other aero frame in the market
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Aero Coach tested different bottles and positions
https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/water-bottle-testing
A bottle mounted behind the saddle has the least aero penalty, followed by an aero bottle, but unless you're racing then it's a bit academic.
I'll use an aero bottle for longer TTs on a hot day, mainly so I can have a drink at the start line.
https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/water-bottle-testing
A bottle mounted behind the saddle has the least aero penalty, followed by an aero bottle, but unless you're racing then it's a bit academic.
I'll use an aero bottle for longer TTs on a hot day, mainly so I can have a drink at the start line.
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I don't know of any good bottles but I do think (per the Aero Coach link) if you're worried about integrated cables, aerofoil tube shapes etc, then it makes sense to avoid sticking a great tubular bottle on a carefully sculpted aero frame...
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Sometimes I like to have a drink during an hour long crit. There are no feed stops, and aero definitely matters at 40-45 kmh avg speed. An aero bottle makes all kinds of sense in that scenario.
Another option with nearly no aero penalty for shorter TTs is to use a small soft flask like this one in a small top tube bag (that is also used for my car keys):
https://www.decathlon.de/p/soft-flask-t ... mc=8588860
https://www.deuter.com/de-de/shop/tasch ... gy-bag-0.5
I mainly use it to have a sip at the start line but it is also nice to have a little bit left over if a sip is needed underway. This may be strange, but i always get less thirsty if i know that i have some water with me.
https://www.decathlon.de/p/soft-flask-t ... mc=8588860
https://www.deuter.com/de-de/shop/tasch ... gy-bag-0.5
I mainly use it to have a sip at the start line but it is also nice to have a little bit left over if a sip is needed underway. This may be strange, but i always get less thirsty if i know that i have some water with me.
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You can’t see the bottle because the front of the bike is on a much closer plane than the front of the bottle. Objects closer to you appear larger. Or do you think your tire is wider than your Assioma pedal body?rudye9mr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:12 pm20221204_090311~2.jpg
Have that bike. If you look head on with regular bottles/bottle cages, you would be hard pressed to tell that they are there...
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I've got the earlier version of elite aero cages and bottles it's a white bottle and it's a true carbon cage
These have been fantastic and very reliable. very easy in and out very easy to handle on the bike. If you're into marginal games these are a smart choice. I had a chance to try the black ones with their fiberglass cages didn't like those as they seemed kind of flimsy
they come up on eBay from time to time - very good product
These have been fantastic and very reliable. very easy in and out very easy to handle on the bike. If you're into marginal games these are a smart choice. I had a chance to try the black ones with their fiberglass cages didn't like those as they seemed kind of flimsy
they come up on eBay from time to time - very good product
For those who are truly serious about reducing aero drag from water bottles, something like the XLAB Delta 425 Bottle Cages, mounted behind the saddle is probably the best option.
Not sure if they are UCI legal and definitely don't allow a saddle bag to be fitted, but they are a no compromise aero option with normal, round bottles.
Not sure if they are UCI legal and definitely don't allow a saddle bag to be fitted, but they are a no compromise aero option with normal, round bottles.
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Agree that this is probably the best option over an aero water bottle and is backed up by the Aerocoach link already posted.Nickldn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:51 pmFor those who are truly serious about reducing aero drag from water bottles, something like the XLAB Delta 425 Bottle Cages, mounted behind the saddle is probably the best option.
Not sure if they are UCI legal and definitely don't allow a saddle bag to be fitted, but they are a no compromise aero option with normal, round bottles.