Continental GP 5000 AllSeason

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Knightyboy27
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by Knightyboy27

Just noticed this new product listing on R2, perhaps a faster version of the GP 4 Season, but the listing has it at quite a lot heavier.

https://r2-bike.com/CONTINENTAL-Tire-Gr ... lack-cream
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Mocs123
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by Mocs123

Looks like a 4-Season tubeless tire.
2015 Wilier Zero.7 Rim - 6.37kg
2017 Trek Domane SLR-7 Disc - 8.36kg
2020 Trek Emonda SLR-7 Disc - 6.86kg

Ritxis
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by Ritxis

Mocs123 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm
Looks like a 4-Season tubeless tire.
it says it in the description: CONTINENTAL Tire Grand Prix 5000 AllSeason Tubeless

335 grs. in 700x28 and :shock: 96€

MagicShite
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by MagicShite

Ritxis wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:02 pm
Mocs123 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm
Looks like a 4-Season tubeless tire.
it says it in the description: CONTINENTAL Tire Grand Prix 5000 AllSeason Tubeless

335 grs. in 700x28 and :shock: 96€
perhaps a "rebrand" of the old GP5k TL that is heavy but ROBUST AF? :lol:

Mocs123
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by Mocs123

Ritxis wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:02 pm
Mocs123 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm
Looks like a 4-Season tubeless tire.
it says it in the description: CONTINENTAL Tire Grand Prix 5000 AllSeason Tubeless

335 grs. in 700x28 and :shock: 96€
I stated that because the OP seemed to be thinking that it might be a replacement for the current clincher 4 - Season, but instead I think this is a new 4 season tubeless tire and NOT a replacement for the current clincher.
2015 Wilier Zero.7 Rim - 6.37kg
2017 Trek Domane SLR-7 Disc - 8.36kg
2020 Trek Emonda SLR-7 Disc - 6.86kg

AJS914
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by AJS914

MagicShite wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:12 pm
perhaps a "rebrand" of the old GP5k TL that is heavy but ROBUST AF? :lol:
I'm really happy about a less expensive 5000 tubeless tire. I've had really good luck with the first generation 5000 TL. The 5000 S TR has been crazy priced though I finally saw some on sale recently (finally).

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

Seems to have been a premature listing, because its gone now.
That is great news though, because I wanted a good All season tire badly!
Specialized SW Æthos (2021) 6.1kg
Specialized SW Crux (2022) 7.2kg
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg

*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT Disc

WorkonSunday
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by WorkonSunday

at that price and weight, i think i prefer Pirelli Cinutrato velo. but i will wait for proper test before striking it off my list outright
Some say pour 10ml water out of your bottle to save that last bit of the weight. Sorry, i go one step further, i tend to the rider off my bikes. :thumbup:
n+1...14 last time i checked, but i lost count :mrgreen:

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

WorkonSunday wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:21 pm
at that price and weight, i think i prefer Pirelli Cinutrato velo. but i will wait for proper test before striking it off my list outright
I may be tripping, but the Cinturato is:
- not HL compatible
- 1W slower than the Pirelli 4S per tire (and that's when the Cinturato is set up tubelessly, teh 4S with a giga-slow butyl tube)
- not a winter tire (winter tires are not just more puncture resistant, but should have special compound, that stays softer and more grippy, when it gets very cold)
- does not have a reflective sidewall, which can be a lifesaver in the dark season.

What ever you value of these, this tire has a lot of relatively unique things going for it.
Specialized SW Æthos (2021) 6.1kg
Specialized SW Crux (2022) 7.2kg
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg

*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT Disc

CampagYOLO
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by CampagYOLO

MagicShite wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:12 pm
Ritxis wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:02 pm
Mocs123 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm
Looks like a 4-Season tubeless tire.
it says it in the description: CONTINENTAL Tire Grand Prix 5000 AllSeason Tubeless

335 grs. in 700x28 and :shock: 96€
perhaps a "rebrand" of the old GP5k TL that is heavy but ROBUST AF? :lol:
I'd be happy with that as long as they also make it easier to fit.

Knightyboy27
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by Knightyboy27

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:13 pm
Seems to have been a premature listing, because its gone now.
Fortunate I took a screenshot of some more of the page
GP AllSeason2.png

Attermann
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by Attermann

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:58 pm
WorkonSunday wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:21 pm
at that price and weight, i think i prefer Pirelli Cinutrato velo. but i will wait for proper test before striking it off my list outright
I may be tripping, but the Cinturato is:
- not HL compatible
- 1W slower than the Pirelli 4S per tire (and that's when the Cinturato is set up tubelessly, teh 4S with a giga-slow butyl tube)
- not a winter tire (winter tires are not just more puncture resistant, but should have special compound, that stays softer and more grippy, when it gets very cold)
- does not have a reflective sidewall, which can be a lifesaver in the dark season.

What ever you value of these, this tire has a lot of relatively unique things going for it.

I use one as a winter tyre, it has great puncture resistance, and i think it has really great wet weather grip, we have a lot of wet roads in Denmark at winter, i have useed Hutchinson Sector, and that tyre was down right scary in the wet. And are you sure about the hookless? they weren't initially, but haven't they changed that?

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

I just saw that there is a reflective version of the Cinturato.
I tried to Google for "hookless compatibility" and a review from 2021 says it is not! Don't know if anything has changed since.

Wet grip is very good, I agree. But to reiterate my point: a grippy tire in the wet is not the same as an actual winter tire. A proper all year tire should stay softer when it gets to around 0C or below. Normal road tires, regardless of how grippy they are become less melleable, and possibly porous, when water starts to solidify.
I have made pretty good experiences with the Conti 4Season, but wouldn't want a tubed tire anymore.
Specialized SW Æthos (2021) 6.1kg
Specialized SW Crux (2022) 7.2kg
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg

*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT Disc

NordicSal
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by NordicSal

I went 7k on my Cinturato 28c TL - didn't have them off the rim or any punctures at all. Very good grip in Denmark. Considering whether to go back to them for winter or to try this new tire.

Does anyone know how wide they go? Would like at least 32c, possibly 35.

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Attermann
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by Attermann

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:26 pm
I just saw that there is a reflective version of the Cinturato.
I tried to Google for "hookless compatibility" and a review from 2021 says it is not! Don't know if anything has changed since.

Wet grip is very good, I agree. But to reiterate my point: a grippy tire in the wet is not the same as an actual winter tire. A proper all year tire should stay softer when it gets to around 0C or below. Normal road tires, regardless of how grippy they are become less melleable, and possibly porous, when water starts to solidify.
I have made pretty good experiences with the Conti 4Season, but wouldn't want a tubed tire anymore.

I don't know where you find your information, but on Pirelli's homepage, it says hookles compatible, just not more than 5 bars pressure.

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