Cannondale Super six leichtbau

[wheelsONfire]

You don't have to use their stem and bar, either

Is it standard size on the steerer tube?
If so i don't see any downsides...

[man1ac]

So I got one of the Leichtbau frames even though I didnt try hard
But probably will give it to a friend. As mentioned before the SSE is due for an Update (rumors say it won't be just colors and significant) and don't wanna spent 5k for a frame that's old in 5-9 months ...

[TLN]

^
yeah that is true, but how's any other modern frameset (bike) are different?

Using 1" 1/2 - 1" 1/2 headset and route cables through headset (all four cables in fact), so it's compatible with Vision ACR, Deda DCR and some other one-piece bars.
I'm sure, we'll see more handlebars if that standart becomes more popular

[wheelsONfire]

So I got one of the Leichtbau frames even though I didnt try hard
But probably will give it to a friend. As mentioned before the SSE is due for an Update (rumors say it won't be just colors and significant) and don't wanna spent 5k for a frame that's old in 5-9 months ...

This i don't get!
If you get a frameset or complete bike you actually like, you say you don't want it because their may be something new around the corner!?
It will happen all the time with everything. I would be very happy if i had the leichtbau and what may turn up later i wouldn't care about.
Possibly if there were things i wasn't pleased with to begin with.

[wheelsONfire]

^
yeah that is true, but how's any other modern frameset (bike) are different?

Using 1" 1/2 - 1" 1/2 headset and route cables through headset (all four cables in fact), so it's compatible with Vision ACR, Deda DCR and some other one-piece bars.
I'm sure, we'll see more handlebars if that standart becomes more popular

Not a big fan of integrated. It's easy to change fit with a stem and handlebar, you can also angle the bar to your liking or find a bar that suits you better. I have a very physical work and for sure i can say, it affects my back and fit to a degree. I haven't fully grasped how much until i became obsessive with fit on my bike.
I really notice how my fit gets way better when i have vacation. I also notice how my fit can be better or worse when i work (at times it's ok, at times it is worse).
Even went to a physiotherapist to get clear if i was off in my thoughts, but it was not so.

[justkeepedaling]

So I got one of the Leichtbau frames even though I didnt try hard
But probably will give it to a friend. As mentioned before the SSE is due for an Update (rumors say it won't be just colors and significant) and don't wanna spent 5k for a frame that's old in 5-9 months ...

This i don't get!
If you get a frameset or complete bike you actually like, you say you don't want it because their may be something new around the corner!?
It will happen all the time with everything. I would be very happy if i had the leichtbau and what may turn up later i wouldn't care about.
Possibly if there were things i wasn't pleased with to begin with.

This is pretty typical logic. Most of us already have bikes that we're mostly happy with. Why spend top dollar on a frame that's going to be obsolete very soon? If you get the next updated design right at the beginning of its design cycle, it'll be "relevant" for years

[mikemelbrooks]

So I got one of the Leichtbau frames even though I didnt try hard
But probably will give it to a friend. As mentioned before the SSE is due for an Update (rumors say it won't be just colors and significant) and don't wanna spent 5k for a frame that's old in 5-9 months ...

This i don't get!
If you get a frameset or complete bike you actually like, you say you don't want it because their may be something new around the corner!?
It will happen all the time with everything. I would be very happy if i had the leichtbau and what may turn up later i wouldn't care about.
Possibly if there were things i wasn't pleased with to begin with.

This is pretty typical logic. Most of us already have bikes that we're mostly happy with. Why spend top dollar on a frame that's going to be obsolete very soon? If you get the next updated design right at the beginning of its design cycle, it'll be "relevant" for years

There is a lot to be said for not getting the latest design. Canyon have had recalls because of handle bars and seatposts, Cannondale have changed the frame to stop damage when the steerer is turned too far, Specialized have changed the headset plug on the Sl7. And these are just of the top of my head. There is a saying never buy the mark 1 version of anything.

[wheelsONfire]

So I got one of the Leichtbau frames even though I didnt try hard
But probably will give it to a friend. As mentioned before the SSE is due for an Update (rumors say it won't be just colors and significant) and don't wanna spent 5k for a frame that's old in 5-9 months ...

This i don't get!
If you get a frameset or complete bike you actually like, you say you don't want it because their may be something new around the corner!?
It will happen all the time with everything. I would be very happy if i had the leichtbau and what may turn up later i wouldn't care about.
Possibly if there were things i wasn't pleased with to begin with.

This is pretty typical logic. Most of us already have bikes that we're mostly happy with. Why spend top dollar on a frame that's going to be obsolete very soon? If you get the next updated design right at the beginning of its design cycle, it'll be "relevant" for years

I don't see it as obsolte at all. I doubt the forthcoming, not even existing, is better, just different.
I do understand that in your mind it isn't so. But i think a concept refined is a safer move than the all new.
There is always things that will change with a new frameset. I might be rolling updates or advertised.
A good thing is still as good even if something new arrive. What size is your frame?

[charirider]

No direct mount rim brake model = no buy. Discs = weight.

[rothwem]

This thread shows how much times have changed.
A super light limited edition frame is released and the thread gets no love at all!
Looking at the other threads that are above it shows a HUGE change in cycling, perhaps the demographic of this site as well.



https://www.cannondale.com/en-eu/bikes/ ... d-frameset

Is it possible that even WeightWeenies(TM) are tired of being price gouged for minimal improvements?

[RDY]

This thread shows how much times have changed.
A super light limited edition frame is released and the thread gets no love at all!
Looking at the other threads that are above it shows a HUGE change in cycling, perhaps the demographic of this site as well.



https://www.cannondale.com/en-eu/bikes/ ... d-frameset

Is it possible that even WeightWeenies(TM) are tired of being price gouged for minimal improvements?

Nah, I think it's because this SKU isn't expensive enough. If they'd priced it at £6.5k instead of £4250 (only pricing I've seen is UK) people would have been prepared to commit violence to get one. 4250 is just too 'budget'. Plus the finish / paint job looks shit.

[rothwem]

This thread shows how much times have changed.
A super light limited edition frame is released and the thread gets no love at all!
Looking at the other threads that are above it shows a HUGE change in cycling, perhaps the demographic of this site as well.



https://www.cannondale.com/en-eu/bikes/ ... d-frameset

Is it possible that even WeightWeenies(TM) are tired of being price gouged for minimal improvements?

Nah, I think it's because this SKU isn't expensive enough. If they'd priced it at £6.5k instead of £4250 (only pricing I've seen is UK) people would have been prepared to commit violence to get one. 4250 is just too 'budget'. Plus the finish / paint job looks shit.

Ahh. Not Veblen enough. Maybe make it a round $/£10,000 for the frame?

[maxima]

BTW, what is the weight of the new Cannondale Supersix leichtbau? Frame + Fork = 750g? Doesn't sound like it is a 90g weight reduction!! I own the Cannondale supersix HM version and the frame without fork is anbout 760g without the Fork, I assume fork is 360g = 1120g vs 750g of Limited leichtbau frameset? The saving is 370g!!! I've also the S works Aethos at 560g frame + 350g fork = 910g!!!! So Cannondale leichtbau is lighter than S-Works Aethos? If this even possible?

[Maddie]

The weight is obviously frame only, not including fork.

[eucalyptus]

BTW, what is the weight of the new Cannondale Supersix leichtbau? Frame + Fork = 750g? Doesn't sound like it is a 90g weight reduction!! I own the Cannondale supersix HM version and the frame without fork is anbout 760g without the Fork, I assume fork is 360g = 1120g vs 750g of Limited leichtbau frameset? The saving is 370g!!! I've also the S works Aethos at 560g frame + 350g fork = 910g!!!! So Cannondale leichtbau is lighter than S-Works Aethos? If this even possible?

Lol
frame + fork 750g

on what planet are these physics possible