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Ye Olde Balde One
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by Ye Olde Balde One

Firstly thanks to everyone who made comment and gave advice. It was all appreciated.

So I have the bones now, in a sparkly new Storck C0.9 (59cm-L) and other than handlebars (Schmolke) and post (Spada) for which I'll use substitute items in the meantime, the boxes will get their final opening...

Fork: Storck Stiletto Light
Headset: Storck supplied
Stem: FRM Web Stem Ti (probably 130mm)
Bars: To be Schmolke Carbon 26x460mm
Tape: Bike Ribbon
Post: To be Spada 290x31.6mm
Saddle: AX Lightness
BB: Zerolite Scandium ISIS
Cranks: FRM CU2 ISIS 180mm
Rings: FRM 53x39t
Bolts: FRM
FD: Record 2004 tuned
RD: Record 2004 Tuned
Ergo: Record 2004 Tuned
Chain: Ultra10 (may change to Ti Wippermann)
Cables: Metawire
Pedals: Aerolite
Brakes: Zero Gravity Tuned (will change later to AX Lightness)
Cages: BTP
Wheels:
Normal wheelset - Spada Carbonio Aero Clinchers (full carbon rims)
Tires: Veloflex Corsa
Tubes: Michelin Latex
QR's: FRM2
Cassette: Tiso 11x25t (will change later to Zerolite)

Light wheelset - Spada Winium Tubular
Tires: Tufo Elite >135gm
QR's: CT AK
Cassette: Zerolite 11x25t

Pics later.....
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by cadence90

Heck of a spec.
You got your frame fast didn't you?
"Gimondi è un eroe umano, che viene sconfitto ma che continua la sua corsa fino a tornare a vincere." - Enrico Ruggeri

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Ye Olde Balde One
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cadence90 wrote:Heck of a spec.
You got your frame fast didn't you?


When I make my mind up, I get things to happen!

It's been overdue, and looking at this frame I make the right choice...all I have to do is build and ride it :twisted:
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what made you take the storck 0.9 over the scott c1r?

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Ye Olde Balde One
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spytech wrote:what made you take the storck 0.9 over the scott c1r?


Availability, quality (I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me), length of time Storck has been in the road frame market and worked with carbon, sizing.

The downtube is bigger than my EM2 frame, so I hope it translates into stiffness, but with a plusher ride.
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I didnt know Scott had quality issuses with thier bikes.

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Ye Olde Balde One wrote:(I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me)


by like how much? who measured it?

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by JTC

Sounds like its going to be really light. Whats the target weight? Give us some feedback on the Zerolite Cassette. I hate my Tiso, so I am looking for a better alternative.

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nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:(I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me)


by like how much? who measured it?


I have seen several pictures along the length of the top tube that show bulges and hollows visibly. I don't know of anyone that measured it, but head about it enough times that I was concerned.
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JTC wrote:Sounds like its going to be really light. Whats the target weight? Give us some feedback on the Zerolite Cassette. I hate my Tiso, so I am looking for a better alternative.


Target weight is 10.5lbs, but I think it's going to be a little heavier now I have the frame weighed. Certainly sub 11lbs is possible I think.

I've used the cassette for just over 400m now. They shift real well and are quiet, I prefer them over Tiso for shifting quality by a big margin, plus they are lighter :)
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by Beeble

Could you please post the diameters of the tubes.

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Beeble wrote:Could you please post the diameters of the tubes.


Top tube; 36.5mm, Seat tube; 34.5mm, Downtube; 48mm dia.
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Ye Olde Balde One wrote:
nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:(I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me)


by like how much? who measured it?


I have seen several pictures along the length of the top tube that show bulges and hollows visibly. I don't know of anyone that measured it, but head about it enough times that I was concerned.


would you say most of the variations in diam are near the ends of the tubes? this could be the lug layup.

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nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:
nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:(I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me)


by like how much? who measured it?


I have seen several pictures along the length of the top tube that show bulges and hollows visibly. I don't know of anyone that measured it, but head about it enough times that I was concerned.


would you say most of the variations in diam are near the ends of the tubes? this could be the lug layup.


No, along the whole tube length including in the center. I don't think it's material for a lug layup (like a Calfee Tetra).
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Ye Olde Balde One wrote:
nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:
nicrump wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:(I keep hearing about the Scott tubes not being constant in outside diameter which worried me)


by like how much? who measured it?


I have seen several pictures along the length of the top tube that show bulges and hollows visibly. I don't know of anyone that measured it, but head about it enough times that I was concerned.


would you say most of the variations in diam are near the ends of the tubes? this could be the lug layup.


No, along the whole tube length including in the center. I don't think it's material for a lug layup (like a Calfee Tetra).


If that’s the case then they are either using a soft removable core and external pressure (this is ok, just might give surface impressions) or they are using a male mold with bladder and are failing to compact the laminate well(assuming they didn’t cut their mold with a butter knife)

But who knows, these bike get great reviews. I'd love to cut one up. If you guys ever hear of a crashed on, let me know. I would like to buy it to cut up.

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