KREISSÄGE RS 😳 that’s a good looking bike
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Just found these guys online.
Damn, they build some good looking bikes, and the prices are good too.
Do I need one possibly
https://standert.de/products/kreissage ... widow-2022
Damn, they build some good looking bikes, and the prices are good too.
Do I need one possibly
https://standert.de/products/kreissage ... widow-2022
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I absolutely love the Kreissäge! If I had the Money burning a hole in my pockets I'd buy one.
If the framesets become available, I might get tempted - and there is a rim option for the stock kreissäge
If the framesets become available, I might get tempted - and there is a rim option for the stock kreissäge
I wish they hadn't gone for the fully internal cabling with the new generation. It just doesn't make that much sense to me. Someone who wants the aero gains of internal headset cabling isn't going to buy a round-tube, alloy bike... Be a lot easier to care for to just keep everything semi internal and it still looks clean. I was very close to buying one of the previous gen though.
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Ditto. 387mm reach on the size 52 with a 110mm stem.
You’d have to be bloody flexible to ride this geo.
Geo is pretty much on par with a Tarmac SL7 / Allez? Comparing 54s; its even a bit more relaxed.
Reach cannot be considered in isolation (as the height will influence the practical reach). When you add height (either with headset cover/upper or spacers) you get roughly a third back in reduced reach.iamraymond wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:11 pmDitto. 387mm reach on the size 52 with a 110mm stem.
You’d have to be bloody flexible to ride this geo.
I have an approx number that I like for stack (where a normal-ish stem would sit for me), and from that I can calculate my "real" reach of a bike.
If you'd want this visualized, use bikeinsights.com to compare bikes (and it will be very apparent how the measurements interact and which bikes that are really longer).
With that said - the Standert PC bikes have really steep STA and straight posts, so they're actually shorter than the numbers make you think. It's a different way of fitting those that are not as tall, but I (a 56ish) have a pretty good idea of where I'd want to sit in relation to the bottom bracket (so I can go off of numbers).
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Spot on. I was actually surprised when I read the geometry seemed long.Singular wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:54 pmReach cannot be considered in isolation (as the height will influence the practical reach). When you add height (either with headset cover/upper or spacers) you get roughly a third back in reduced reach.iamraymond wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:11 pmDitto. 387mm reach on the size 52 with a 110mm stem.
You’d have to be bloody flexible to ride this geo.
I have an approx number that I like for stack (where a normal-ish stem would sit for me), and from that I can calculate my "real" reach of a bike.
If you'd want this visualized, use bikeinsights.com to compare bikes (and it will be very apparent how the measurements interact and which bikes that are really longer).
With that said - the Standert PC bikes have really steep STA and straight posts, so they're actually shorter than the numbers make you think. It's a different way of fitting those that are not as tall, but I (a 56ish) have a pretty good idea of where I'd want to sit in relation to the bottom bracket (so I can go off of numbers).
I ride a size 54 Triebwerk with 1 cm of spacers. It's one of the comfier bikes I ve known.