“Different” new Madone (2023)

[Aesch]

Can’t wait for Specialized to take this one step further and start selling crosswind specific bikes. Call it the S-Works Echelon. Hire me.

Next up, bike with a retractable parachute for extra speed with tailwind?

OT: look forward to seeing the bike in real life, so far I like it and especially the "chique" paints.

[MitchatTrek]

Cable routing hasn't really changed, it is the frame design that changes for which the bar/stem fits, just like on prior models. Plus, the cockpit has a lot of input on the aero of the complete package.

Mitch, any timeline for when ProjectOne will be up for the new bike?

Still TBD - Our P1 team is working out logistics, but we have a slick new ICON paint scheme being announced this season.

Are there any pics of it in 47cm? I'm curious how everything especially the hole will look

Photos we take would be on a 56cm frame, but you may see a 47cm in the tour for a short rider. The IsoFlow shape will remain the same for all sizes, it would just sit lower to accommodate the shorted seat tube length needed for the shorter frame.

[Cemicar]

Photos we take would be on a 56cm frame, but you may see a 47cm in the tour for a short rider. The IsoFlow shape will remain the same for all sizes, it would just sit lower to accommodate the shorted seat tube length needed for the shorter frame.

Who will ride a 47 size in the tour?

I suspect the smallest Madone ever created so far is 54 until Trek gives the women team a new Madone.

[MitchatTrek]

Photos we take would be on a 56cm frame, but you may see a 47cm in the tour for a short rider. The IsoFlow shape will remain the same for all sizes, it would just sit lower to accommodate the shorted seat tube length needed for the shorter frame.

I suspect the smallest Madone ever created so far is 54 until Trek gives the women team a new Madone.

They actually have new Madones

[Cemicar]

They actually have new Madones

That's great to know. I hope they show off them in instagram if not riding in Giro Donne. Some riders like Lauretta Hanson or Chloe Hosking apparently use 47 or 50.

[robeambro]

Photos we take would be on a 56cm frame, but you may see a 47cm in the tour for a short rider. The IsoFlow shape will remain the same for all sizes, it would just sit lower to accommodate the shorted seat tube length needed for the shorter frame.

I suspect the smallest Madone ever created so far is 54 until Trek gives the women team a new Madone.

They actually have new Madones

Balsamo has been winning sprints aboard the old model in the Giro Donne, so they don't quite have them yet.

[Stormtrooper]

Today would have been a good day for the Emonda.
Maybe the other models (Emonda and Domane) are obsolete now.

[cajer]

I could see that being true (even on mountain stages) if you can build the new madone very close to 6.8kg with deep wheels. That might be possible on a 47cm but likely not?

[Andrew69]

Can’t wait for Specialized to take this one step further and start selling crosswind specific bikes. Call it the S-Works Echelon. Hire me.

Next up, bike with a retractable parachute for extra speed with tailwind?

OT: look forward to seeing the bike in real life, so far I like it and especially the "chique" paints.

No, no , no.....that would be a spinnaker

[dmbiscuit]

I could see that being true (even on mountain stages) if you can build the new madone very close to 6.8kg with deep wheels. That might be possible on a 47cm but likely not?

Do you mean 6.8 with shallow wheels?

[cajer]

If you can get to 6.8kg with deep wheels why not run deep wheels?

[StiffWeenies]

If you can get to 6.8kg with deep wheels why not run deep wheels?

This is more of a car thing but is unsprung weight not a consideration in cycling?

[blaugrana]

If you can get to 6.8kg with deep wheels why not run deep wheels?

This is more of a car thing but is unsprung weight not a consideration in cycling?

Not really. The part of a road bicycle that offers more suspension is the tyres, so from that point of view, the heavy deep rims are sprung weight. Or as unsprung as everything else.

[Karvalo]

For what it's worth, I think most Trek shops will swap seatpost and bar/stems for you when you purchase a complete bike to get the fit right. I went to place an order for a frameset only with seatpost and bars and they even said they'd swap them after the fact of the fit wasn't right. It may just take talking to a shop (or customer service online) in advance to see what they are willing to do in terms of component swaps for you without a charge.

They talked about doing this officially in their web session a few years back, but nothing ever materialized. I am skeptical that they would do component swaps for integrated cabling bikes for free. It would take a lot of labor and also one piece bar/stems are expensive and hard to sell/inventory.

From Trek's point of view that's what Project One is for. Just order the bike exactly as you want it.

Obviously in the current stock/lead time situation that doesn't work as well, but it's what they aim for.

[tmrace]

Has anyone received more concrete information about frame, fork, and seatpost weights?