Cable routing hasn't really changed, it is the frame design that changes for which the bar/stem fits, just like on prior models. Plus, the cockpit has a lot of input on the aero of the complete package.TLN wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:41 pm^100% this.
Plus this seems like third or fourth iteration of single piece handlebar, and you probably specify the reason you're changing own standarts of integrated stems/bars and not designing em backwards compatible. One can imagine that after 2-3 iterations (6+ years) company would figure out most optimal way to route cables.
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Yup, they all take the pi** to the nth degree now.mrbrown4001 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:06 pmSo *f##k* up on so many levels.
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I guess it depends on what you expect from a bike.
Firstly, I find TREK bikes especially overpriced, usually beating out Specilaized and other very expensive brands by another 1-2k.
Also, 105 in 2022 is pretty amazing. Not hyper light, but as good of a groupset as last years Ultegra, maybe better.
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38cm only goes up to 100mm stem length.
40cm up to 110mm
For most this won’t be an issue because it’s still a variant of the VR-C design, so >90mm reach.
40cm up to 110mm
For most this won’t be an issue because it’s still a variant of the VR-C design, so >90mm reach.
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The Scott bike is like $5400 US for a 105 build vs the trek at $8000Mocs123 wrote:Top tier Madone at $12K looks like a bargin after seeing the $17K price of new Scott Foil .
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the 105 bike comes in at 7.7kg.. not bad.
swap the crank and the cassette and its getting down very acceptable weight. Most guys where I live will swap the crank day 1.
let's face it. 105 is the new ultegra. ultegra is the ne durace. durace will probably never really be available.
we got to accept that disc brakes and di2 make bikes more expensive.
dam my first road bike had 105 with down tube shifting... times have changed.. and it costs
swap the crank and the cassette and its getting down very acceptable weight. Most guys where I live will swap the crank day 1.
let's face it. 105 is the new ultegra. ultegra is the ne durace. durace will probably never really be available.
we got to accept that disc brakes and di2 make bikes more expensive.
dam my first road bike had 105 with down tube shifting... times have changed.. and it costs
Mitch, any timeline for when ProjectOne will be up for the new bike?MitchatTrek wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:56 pmCable routing hasn't really changed, it is the frame design that changes for which the bar/stem fits, just like on prior models. Plus, the cockpit has a lot of input on the aero of the complete package.TLN wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:41 pm^100% this.
Plus this seems like third or fourth iteration of single piece handlebar, and you probably specify the reason you're changing own standarts of integrated stems/bars and not designing em backwards compatible. One can imagine that after 2-3 iterations (6+ years) company would figure out most optimal way to route cables.
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I wonder how the Isoflow would work on smaller frames since the top tube will slope down considerably and the air flow would be directed more towards the seat post. Also, the isoflow will have to be smaller proportionate to the frame.
Something isnt right here.
The weight of the SLR6 105 di2 is listed as 7.76 kg in size 56
The weight of the SLR7 Ultegra di2 is listed as 7.48 kg in size 56
There is greater weight difference between those two groupsets the bike is the same spec outside of that
The weight of the SLR6 105 di2 is listed as 7.76 kg in size 56
The weight of the SLR7 Ultegra di2 is listed as 7.48 kg in size 56
There is greater weight difference between those two groupsets the bike is the same spec outside of that
wrong. 80mm reach
bikerumor best article on madone. READ. too many people on this forum make assumptions without getting all the facts.
The width on this bar is measured at the drops
The tops are 3 cm narrower than the drops
Reach: 80 mm
Drop: 124 mm
Blendr compatible
Stem/Bar combo sizes per frame size: 47cm: 38×80 mm, 50 & 52: 40×90 mm, 54: 42×90 mm, 56-58: 42×100 mm, 60-62: 44×110 mm
https://bikerumor.com/new-2023-trek-mad ... road-bike/
with a massive recession coming soon in 2023 i don't see these bikes selling at full price come next summer.
bikerumor best article on madone. READ. too many people on this forum make assumptions without getting all the facts.
The width on this bar is measured at the drops
The tops are 3 cm narrower than the drops
Reach: 80 mm
Drop: 124 mm
Blendr compatible
Stem/Bar combo sizes per frame size: 47cm: 38×80 mm, 50 & 52: 40×90 mm, 54: 42×90 mm, 56-58: 42×100 mm, 60-62: 44×110 mm
https://bikerumor.com/new-2023-trek-mad ... road-bike/
with a massive recession coming soon in 2023 i don't see these bikes selling at full price come next summer.
TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:39 pm38cm only goes up to 100mm stem length.
40cm up to 110mm
For most this won’t be an issue because it’s still a variant of the VR-C design, so >90mm reach.
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