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Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
by robbosmans
Finally, I seriously thought Bianchi ws dead

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
by Weenie

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Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:47 am
by BigBoyND
neeb wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:59 pm
Hmm, what's this..?

Replacement for XR4 at last?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FO14nSF1Fw
http://www.cyclonline.com/bicycles-news ... esentation
Did Pinarello sell the F12 molds to Bianchi? Lol

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:42 am
by romanmoser
Yes and it's awfull
Saw the xr5, couldn't share pics
It's a s5 cervelo mixed with a generic time trial frame
Very wonky, strange shapes, Weirder than the s5 cockpit but in the same vein etc
Think it will be heavy even compared to xr4,
aero ?
maybe

but very very gaudy
pinarello look regular , normal compared to it

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:03 pm
by wheelsONfire
BigBoyND wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:47 am
neeb wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:59 pm
Hmm, what's this..?

Replacement for XR4 at last?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FO14nSF1Fw
http://www.cyclonline.com/bicycles-news ... esentation
Did Pinarello sell the F12 molds to Bianchi? Lol
Where do you see anything that looks like an F12?

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:10 pm
by TobinHatesYou
wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:03 pm

Where do you see anything that looks like an F12?

The second link uses a Pinarello geometry diagram for some reason…probably just the unprofessional nature of the site.

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:19 pm
by wheelsONfire
New Propel must tick atleast two crap boxes.
* Integrated seatmast
* BB86

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:23 pm
by wheelsONfire
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:10 pm
wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:03 pm

Where do you see anything that looks like an F12?

The second link uses a Pinarello geometry diagram for some reason…probably just the unprofessional nature of the site.
Noted that to, but my guess is that it's just a template with no real connection to XR5 or Bianchi.

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:19 pm
by romanmoser
It's very round design
Round seattube curved around the rear tire
Top tube curved up
Weird one piece or look like cokcpit a la s5 but worst, positive stem
center of the handlebar going up compared to the hoods like the coefficent handlebar if you want

Etc

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:39 pm
by wheelsONfire
romanmoser wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:19 pm
It's very round design
Round seattube curved around the rear tire
Top tube curved up
Weird one piece or look like cokcpit a la s5 but worst, positive stem
center of the handlebar going up compared to the hoods like the coefficent handlebar if you want

Etc
Hoho, this sounds funny! I love viewing the weirder designs. At times the uniqueness kind of speak to me. I actually like Dogmas and S5.
Though i have to admit, i also like riding a bike that doesn't draw attention (kind of ambivalent :lol: )

I wonder when we can expect to see the new Colnago (maybe V4R) ?

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:25 pm
by romanmoser
I think you'll like it very much then ...
Even if you don't buy , ride it :)

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:53 pm
by RDY
robbosmans wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
Finally, I seriously thought Bianchi ws dead
Bianchi in any meaningful sense is dead, and long so. It's just the branding that continues to exist. They're the worst historic / big brand in the market today, in my view - and that's really saying a lot given how many are in the running for that title.

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:55 pm
by RDY
romanmoser wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:42 am
Yes and it's awfull
Saw the xr5, couldn't share pics
It's a s5 cervelo mixed with a generic time trial frame
Very wonky, strange shapes, Weirder than the s5 cockpit but in the same vein etc
Think it will be heavy even compared to xr4,
aero ?
maybe

but very very gaudy
pinarello look regular , normal compared to it
But how many rides before it snaps in two? I think that has to be the main question these days with Bianchi ...

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:53 pm
by cajer
RDY wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:53 pm
robbosmans wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
Finally, I seriously thought Bianchi ws dead
Bianchi in any meaningful sense is dead, and long so. It's just the branding that continues to exist. They're the worst historic / big brand in the market today, in my view - and that's really saying a lot given how many are in the running for that title.
What happened to bianchi did they get sold off?

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:59 pm
by Aress
RDY wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:53 pm
robbosmans wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
Finally, I seriously thought Bianchi ws dead
Bianchi in any meaningful sense is dead, and long so. It's just the branding that continues to exist. They're the worst historic / big brand in the market today, in my view - and that's really saying a lot given how many are in the running for that title.
I mean the xr4 was one of the greatest bike of its generation
I get that the new specialissima was a bit lack luster but to call the brand dead is a bit far fetched

If we get a faster as beautiful as the xr4 as the new bike i'm all for it
If they *f##k* up like they did with the specialissima then we will see

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:07 pm
by RDY
cajer wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:53 pm
RDY wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:53 pm
robbosmans wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:02 pm
Finally, I seriously thought Bianchi ws dead
Bianchi in any meaningful sense is dead, and long so. It's just the branding that continues to exist. They're the worst historic / big brand in the market today, in my view - and that's really saying a lot given how many are in the running for that title.
What happened to bianchi did they get sold off?
1997 to Cycleurope (Grimaldi). I think they began brand licensing almost immediately, but the main business was largely unchanged for a while. Since then it's gradually got worse and worse and more costs and corners were cut.

IMO you might be better off buying sub $450 AliExpress frames, these days.

Re: new frame rumors for 2023?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:07 pm
by Weenie

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