Replica bikes

[Cemmac]

Hello,

As lack of avalible bikes this year, at least in our country. Our lbs offered me, if i want i coud get quality replica bike. I have option to get Chinarello F12 or new F frame or possibly Sworks SL7. He offered me also 2year warranty on frame and whole package and get a word that bikes are good quality.

Does anyone has experience with that kinds of bike replicas and could confirm that they ride ok? My yearly stats is usually over 10k km, so i'm worried if quality of these replicas are good. I know it is important from which seller you buy, but generally looking.

Thank you

[manystyles]

Why buy replica? If you’re going to buy a carbon frame that’s affordable, why not try something like Carbonda? http://www.carbonda.com

Thesis bikes uses them as a manufacturer.

Also, would you consider the 2nd market? Buy from a reputable seller, maybe get a good deal. Sounds like a win.


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[Cemmac]

I belive this is also China production, not problem. My local bike store dealer offer me bike from his reputation dealer with t1000 carbon, as i understand and he arrange all imports and shipping to Europe. Really don't care about brand which is written on, just want a normal bike, which i cannot get in stores in EU now, or at least in the next 6months not.

[AJS914]

Why can't you just order it yourself?

The Yoeleo frames look pretty good. I assume their TUV certifications and testing videos are legit.

https://www.yoeleobike.com/collections/ ... road-frame

[stevesbike]

if you're talking about a counterfeit frame with brand decals etc., I'd stay away from them. They are of notoriously bad quality, and I'm not sure how a LBS could even sell them. If you're talking about an open mold 'generic' frame, then there are lots of options though personally I'd scour the second hand market closely for a gently used bike. I've done this with success a number of times.

[Alfus]

I belive this is also China production, not problem. My local bike store dealer offer me bike from his reputation dealer with t1000 carbon, as i understand and he arrange all imports and shipping to Europe. Really don't care about brand which is written on, just want a normal bike, which i cannot get in stores in EU now, or at least in the next 6months not.

If they offer you a complete bike made of T1000, they are lying you.

[Karvalo]

I belive this is also China production, not problem.

It is problem. Branded or open mold Chinese frames still come from companies who have a vested interest in ensuring the quality of their product. Eg. DengFu frames sell because they are known to be cheap and decent. Forgeries do not. A fake SL7 sells because it's pretending to be an SL7, you don't even know what brand or factory is behind it. It doesn't matter to the company making it if it's safe, functional or even stuffed with papier-mâché.

Also if a local dealer is offering to source you a forgery and arrange everything he is about to absolutely gouge you on the price, IMO. So you'll end up with an ultra cheap knock off frame with no reliable QC for an actually not very cheap price.

[cberg]

Depending on where you live buying/selling replica frames like fake Pinarellos is illegal. I wouldnt do it.

[Kumppa]

May I ask which European country you live in? LBS offering counterfeit frames is something I can't even believe to be real. Also the EU has ruled the importation of counterfeit products to be prohibited.

I would stay far away from that kind of shop who is importing counterfeit products. Probably even to tell the authorities about them as I don't have any respect for these sellers. How can you be even 100% sure that you are buying genuine carbon components from this type of LBS?

[kode54]

How about a SEKA Exceed RDC?

[Cemmac]

I suspect i would get a reject opinions from here. Why those eu stores sells forgery frames, answer is more than simple. Because people buying them and they succesfully ride them, there is also aspect that stocks are empty everywhere till summer. You get at least 2years and over warranty for these frames and as i hear the comparisson with original is really good. I don't need subjective opinions, cause not helping. I also don't like Chinese competition in economy, but currently there is original or forgery both probably chinese, this also include taiwan factories.

[JMeinholdt]

I suspect i would get a reject opinions from here. Why those eu stores sells forgery frames, answer is more than simple. Because people buying them and they succesfully ride them, there is also aspect that stocks are empty everywhere till summer. You get at least 2years and over warranty for these frames and as i hear the comparisson with original is really good. I don't need subjective opinions, cause not helping. I also don't like Chinese competition in economy, but currently there is original or forgery both probably chinese, this also include taiwan factories.

Sounds like you're just looking for someone to tell you it's a fantastic idea.

More than likely, selling a copy is illegal and that practice alone would steer me far away from that shop. There are plenty of known open mold frames that are easy enough to come by without infringing on the property of big name manufacturers.

[Mocs123]

I would have no problem buying an open mold frame or a frame make by one of the big chineese carbon bike factories but I wouldn't buy a "replica" frame - in fact it's not a replica at all but of forgery. Not only do I think buying a fogery frame is morally wrong and ethicly wrong, it's probably also illegal. Anf of course the company that makes them is already breaking the law so they have no concern if they sell you a bike with a flaw that has the fork break when you hit a pothole. Unlike something like a bottle cage, a bike frame failure could have catastraphic results. Do I think a major failure is likely? No, but I'm not sure these companies selling black market goods have much of a QC program either.

[Cemmac]

- in fact it's not a replica at all but of forgery. Not only do I think buying a fogery frame is morally wrong and ethicly wrong, it's probably also illegal.

I totally agree but on the other side, when you see production price tag of asian companies and their price tag of resellers which is calculated around 10x times the original price and more just for frame., morally, ethicly, illegal...no, it is just capitalism world.

[Kumppa]

If the production cost vs selling price is an issue, how about Time alpe d huez 01 or 21? European made frames for 3700 or 2500 €, good quality and delivery time should be reasonable (I think a couple of months).

Didn't want to pay 4-5k € for a chinese frame so that's why I bought my 01 rim frame.